Don't get me wrong, I like how Woolford comes across, but I thought at the time that Thorman deserved the bulk of the credit for the turnaround last year. Is the honeymoon period with Woolford over? Do we bite the bullet and go for Shaun Wane while he's still available? We have some outstanding youngsters on the way through, could he be the man to bring them through?

In my opinion, it's hard for Woolford, he doesn't have his own coaching staff, and he's had limited time to bring in his own players. The problem is, the players he has brought in have been pretty garbage, which doesn't help his cause. We're in a tight division, and most of the teams are inconsistent, it's just the manner in which we give up so often which is disappointing.

We are lacking a leader of men, someone who will accept nothing less than 100%, if we aren't going to buy that on the field, then we need it in the dressing room.

I think this weekends game vs Wakey could decide which way we go.

yeh the character and desire has been brought into question a number of times this season... still not been resolved, even if it can!

cudjoe will help with the leadership on the field... could do with a few more like him to come in

I think we need to stick with a coach for a period of time, Woolford inherited a very bad situation in regards to personnel and contracts, if it weren't for our youth setup we would be totally stuffed at the moment. I'm willing ot give him time to assemble a better squad. remember he wanted Hastings badly and that would have proved to be an excellent signing. We do need to get much smarter with regards to our recruitment, i would classify this as our main area to improve , we get nowhere near the value for money from signings that say Wakefield do.

If we look at the likes of Salford and Wakefield they have performed better than we have- but up until recently have not had the player issues we have- how many consecutive games have we named 13 players the same- compare that with Salford, Wakefield are struggling now.....because injuries are biting. It’s easy to swap in the odd player- we e had disruption right from day one- including disruption to off season preparation.

Until Thewlis goes nothing will change and now really loyal fans are so fed up they are starting to vote with their feet. Sadly I don’t see this happening

How on Earth is performance on the field and our squad down to RT? He doesn’t choose the playing personnel he just negotiates contracts within the salary cap.

Who exactly does then ?

Do you know anything about the workings of a professional sports club ?

the head coach chooses the players this has been stated by numerous coaches players and staff over the last few years the md just negotiates the contracts

thewlis has alot to do with the culture of the club , its rotten.

rick stone didnt have much chance to do much with the salary cap he had either like wooldford, yet woolford so far has done no better than stone, paul anderson spent up alot and we are still coming out of his cycle.

we were linked with uate a long time before woolford arrived so are you telling me wooldford signed him or did thewlis? been a number of other signings too that the coach didnt sign, it does happen at all clubs

recent example is wilson from bradford, you really think woolford knew anything about him?? thewlis was asking around who was the best youngster on the market and robinson said wilson along with other people who work with the academies , the board agreed to club some money together and ken davy to get a deal done, doubt it all started with wooldford going to watch wilson on a rainy sunday afternoon at odsal

He’d never heard of REIss BUTTERWORTH, 3 yr deal, who was that ? Stone had already been sacked

So the likes of Robinson, poching, thorman don’t advise?

Several successive coaches have stated-RT doesn’t decide who to sign,
RT himself has stated -RT doesn’t decide who to sign
Even Ken Davy has stated- RT doesn’t decide who to sign

The only people who insist on going on about RT signing players are people who aren’t involved in the club from an operational point of view. Some people just spout hearsay if it fits their agenda. I prefer to listen to those actually involved in running of the club rather than someone on a forum or social media quoting rumours.

Can I please ask any person on here who thinks that RT signs players what basis they have to believe that RT signs players? I’m open to any evidence people can provide.

Where’s your evidence he doesn’t? Isn’t that also hearsay or does that not fit your narrative ? But as always you always know best and you will believe what the club tells you, will thewlis admit he’s signed duds ? No, will coaches say they don’t have full autonomy on signings as therefore look weak? No, does ken Davey let thewlis run it how he wants? Yes
However you always know best, you are an embarrassment at games, an embarrassment on social media and a know it all on here

So you believe all those coaches and ken Davy are lying to you- whilst “Dave” on social media is speaking the truth?
Coaches who have since left the club, potentially with axes to grind, have still maintained they had the say on the playing roster. What basis would ken Davy have to lie?

But you’d rather believe all those people are lying whilst people with no direct involvement know best.
So djhudds -I work according to evidence based decision making- I’ve given you the basis for my conclusion about who signs players- I’m still waiting to hear your basis - I’m open to being convinced if you can provide me with something more substantial than what I’m currently basing my conclusions on.......
let’s hear it.....

I do not but seeing how you claim to, please enlighten the rest of us with your knowledge!!!!