I think any utility player or half back to some extent however talented is only as good as the players in the group that he is in.

At Hull he’s had to force his way into the team and compete with Kelly, Snead etc etc and this does tend to focus the mind when you are an ambitious young fella like Jake is/was. He will have been mentored by better players with a higher expectation of what they require from him which again will have improved his game and decision making.

He has ‘natural sass’ a definite requirement if you want to make it at the top level.

If we can take any consolation from this saga it is that we seem to have done a far better job of retaining our current young talent since this and maybe if we do sign Uate, Hastings and a couple of others working within this group with coaching from Woolford, Edwards, Thorman and Robinson means that this type of environment will exist at the Giants and our current talent will thrive like Jake has done at Hull as I don’t think he would have done under Anderson or Stone.

Kopczak and Mason cough cough, It were all a conspiracy a tell thee

AP a rat?

I've sent him a link to your comment.

Just so you know Jools, your posts at times are usually blinkered, and naive at best, your missive above is obtuse and clumsy, and to be honest downright personal, shame on you, you disgrace the good name of Huddersfield supporters.

Bless. Just think if he’d have had his way with Ken Davy he’d be in charge of a premier league football team now.

No. I’m not watching Mr Thewlis.

Why? Should I be?

I see jools hasn't backed up her Rat comment, typical kbw

Oh come on, Jools might be a bit one eyed but if you really have then that's pretty sad.

I dont know all the ins and outs of the deal that saw Connor come to us, but by all accounts Hull weren't entitled to pay compensation. You can say that they were immoral or that they played the system if you want, but ateotd what club is going to pay out if they can avoid it? I am absolutely certain that Huddersfield will have done something similar in the past.

As for Connor himself. My understanding is that the deal was signed and then he started having second thoughts. Whether this was something to do with Stone, or whether it was the prospect of leaving his mates behind at Huddersfield or whatever, I'm not sure. Hull stuck to their guns and said we aren't releasing him, if you want to keep him you will have to pay. In hindsight, Thewlis should have swallowed his pride and got his cheque book out, but it was a difficult position for him to be in.

Slander and defamation, both illegal.

Libel actually seen as it is in written format, Jools comment is certainly libelous and as such the victim could sue. However, in order for defamation of character to be proven there is also the requirement that it "lowers the reputation of the victim in the eyes of right minded members of society", and here we have a problem. Would right minded members of society take Jools' comments seriously?

Maybe Jools meant Roland Rat - I quite liked him.

Well nobody on here does, and there are plenty right minded people on here.