The thing I want to see from Stone is the back of him, he's absolutely clueless in every aspect of the game. I've got a budget flight ticket to Australia and it's got Richard Stone written all over it.

Too many players not doing anywhere near enough, whether that is through personal effort or they are simply not good enough for this level only the players themselves will know.

What i will say is that Castleford are a bloody damn good team and i can't see anyone being anywhere near them if they keep this up, any other day apart from against my own team and it would have been a joy to watch that, saying that our defence was like the proverbial butter to their hot knife most times.

Think we need to 'do a Hull' and let the players be honest with each other because some of ours are letting this club down badly at the moment, i get told off for being too positive at times but even i'm having to think hard for some these days.

2 from tonight - Darnell McIntosh and Jermaine McGillvary.

Ferguson 29m gained last night, been poor all year going forward averaging under 6m per Carrie which is worst in entire squad

Not just Brough and Murphy that was the problem then. I thought it was Brough who had been Crap all season who had been costing us games, and Murphy who is supposed to be well past it.

They we're last week's scapegoats.

The left edge 'defence' of Ferguson,Mellor,Gaskell & Ormsby were collectively - to use the modern vernacular - 'torn a new one'
Some of the defence up the middle was embarrassing too. Add to that we can't play structure,so fair to say we are in a whole load of Tom Tit just now.

Started off okay, forced a few mistakes,even took the lead. Then normal service was resumed.

Our pack has been getting " torn a new one for " for a few years.

Well, as I posted a few days ago, I expected a lot closer game. The worrying thing would be for me, if I was a Giants fan, that we were very scrappy at times and were frustrating to watch at times. Taking Salford out of the equation its the worst we have been so far this season, especially at home. I felt for McGilvary, he put more effort in on his own than most of the rest put together and ran the ball back with real intent. I'd love to see him in a Cas shirt being given the service that our wingers get. Whats happened to Cudjoe? He didn't look interested.

Normally has a stinker against Shenton.

Three of those players failed to perform last year at the Bulls and look what happened to them. Players who think they are better than they are. Sign championship players and that is whet you will get. The game in this country is so weak up against the NRL that players like these manage to build up a good reputation in a pool of average players.

Does long term solution mean please give me a lot of time to fail?

For me only 2 earning their wage are tai and ika, and if we are at salary cap there is something wrong as these players are only playing part time quality.

sounds like the left hand side had a nightmare again

mellor the only one who has played every game down that side, time to move him or drop him