Are you exonerating Paul Anderson then?

l would not blame Stone for todays game, this is a shambolic performance from a group of players who have shown no pride in the shirt, no passion, and have been totally outplayed by a championship side, the worst performance l have wittnessed for a long time, even l feel ashamed.

The problem is Thewlis, and the senior players who have a mediocre attitude and don't have the balls to win.

Given the team, this is the worst performance for a very long time. Back in the days of Hudds/Sheffield and all that, the team was crap. They got beat because they were crap.

This lot are getting beaten because they can't be d.

I think, therefore, that this may be the worst performance I've ever seen from the Giants.

Ultimately the coaches the players and the conditioning staff are all chosen based on certain criteria.

The club has been mismanaged for a long time.

Thewlis needs to go

The debacle we have seen today has been building up for the last four seasons. Really poor decision making by the club leaves us in a position where we are left with nothing to even feel confident about for the future whilst he is at the helm

id go along with that too

It's just that Stone's been around for about a month now, and he's had a couple of games to get to know the players. I'm not expecting miracles in that time, but his team just served up the worst half of rugby league I've ever seen from a professional team.

So, you know, is he actually any good?

As awful as it was. You can't blame Stone for nobody claiming the first kick off, or conner kicking out on the full the resulting kick off, or Murphy dropping the ball in our first attaching set. Attitude from the players stinks

No but you can blame him that in the biggest of games we took 50 minutes to turn up except for like at Salford a five minute period where we scored 10 quick points until we/Brough did something stupid !!

Yes the players were dire but I expected to see us breathing fire but nooo once again we were 'rabbits in the headlights'

I wonder if he did allude to how our players react under pressure, it's always been a problem, but this season it has been the worst ever. We've got 3 games to sort it or it's lower tier Rugby for us.

players have it too cushty at the giants if ken davy didnt play them for two weeks due to financial troubles they might buck their ideas up but they know they will get paid win or lose and some will have jobs still in sl next year anyway

He did allude to that Matt, he mentioned how fragile the mental attitude and confidence was within the group and that was his biggest challenge.
Can't blame any coach for that bum bashing yesterday, the players shouldn't need firing up, they should know what a game like that means and should be ready and willing to fight for the cause without being told to.

Something along those lines was also mentioned.

yes goes back to when we merged with sheffield, sheffield players were amazed at what the giants players were getting paid at the time!

cant blame rick stone, he has apologised but like he has said before the players have some very bad habits that will take a while to get out of them

We have no leadership- stone recognised that. Could be seen clear as day yesterday. No one is willing to take the players to task or influence what happens in the game. Little things can make a difference. Case in point yesterday you could drive a bus between leighs markers at the ptb for much of the game. I know it always looks worse from behind the sticks but it was as shocking as I've ever seen. I didn't see the captain politely point that out to the ref or any of the officials- he could have just said- you know sir I'm really keen to have a run from dummy half but the way those markers aren't set is limiting my choices.you could bet you dollar if it was leeds after a while Maguire would have had a quiet polite word in the right manner and perhaps a couple of penalties where correctly warranted would have changed that, instead we just allow the disadvantage to us. A mistake is made like the missed kick off and a leader says right never mind a bit of a challenge to take on now boys lets rise to it. Instead there's a raised hand of apology and they all just shuffle their feet and look down.