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We wanted to keep them from what i believe but Warrington offered more money than we could offer them, so off they went.
Not sure if this is the full story, but lack of finances was certainly something to do with it, and yet people still think we can just "get rid" or "go out and get" certain players!

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Quote: meast "We wanted to keep them from what i believe but Warrington offered more money than we could offer them, so off they went.
Not sure if this is the full story, but lack of finances was certainly something to do with it, and yet people still think we can just "get rid" or "go out and get" certain players!'"


Where do they think we get the funding from? The sky money covers the first team wages.
Then there's season ticket/gate money, (lower than most SL teams) merchandise profit money, (again lower than most) sponsorship and Giants lottery. We don't make any money from food or drink etc bought at the stadium as some clubs do.

This has to cover stadium rent, stewarding, fan zone stuff, marketing and all the back room staff, printing, ticketing, team kit, transport, (including a costly trip to France) coaching staff, physios, medical staff, insurance, tax, business rates and vat etc,

Then there's a whole academy to pay for......

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jools how do you know what are money we get .only income published is sky. clubs with old grounds like cass have to pay a large amount of cash on the up keep of the ground the crowds up to this year where about the same as ours . as we own 20% KDSL 40% town and 40 kirkless so things in the background i e see how many bussness rent space in main stand food ,drink driving range ,swimming pool all help pay for the ground any profits we would get 20 % untill someone publishes the books who knows how money we have

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Quote: 40 year old giant "jools how do you know what are money we get .only income published is sky. clubs with old grounds like cass have to pay a large amount of cash on the up keep of the ground the crowds up to this year where about the same as ours . as we own 20% KDSL 40% town and 40 kirkless so things in the background i e see how many bussness rent space in main stand food ,drink driving range ,swimming pool all help pay for the ground any profits we would get 20 % untill someone publishes the books who knows how money we have'"


I know that Giants haven't been making a profit- that information is published. I also know because Ken Davy himself told me that under the stadium agreement the Giants have to pay £5 for EVERY person that attends a rugby game at the stadium- even if that person gets in as a "free" child or on a free ticket. He also told me that at that time he was personally paying £10,000 a WEEK of his money to bankroll the club.
That may well have changed- but I can't see it having gone down much. We are the poor relations to many clubs- don't kid yourself!

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jools where are the profit loss information published the last info i have seen we where loosing that kind of money but that was when we spent big when brown first came to he club and before the new sky contract . yes we are poor if you compaire to wigan but not if you look at cass.wakey and the likes of hull kr who dont have anyone else using the ground to help pay for its up keep

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Quote: 40 year old giant "jools where are the profit loss information published the last info i have seen we where loosing that kind of money but that was when we spent big when brown first came to he club and before the new sky contract . yes we are poor if you compaire to wigan but not if you look at cass.wakey and the likes of hull kr who dont have anyone else using the ground to help pay for its up keep'"


No they don't have anyone else to share their grounds-which means they can do what they want when they want with them-and can choose how much to pay for stewarding costs etc. Hull KR Cas and Wakey also make money from their stadia via food and drink sales.

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Poor relations of rugby? I've heard it all now. We're not poor relations and have a good income stream and can compete with the top clubs in the competition like we have done for a number of years. Yes we've had a poor season but look how preseason and then the season started with players leaving to go with fallouts within the dressing room, injuries that ended a career, and constant injuries throughout the year, apparent poor coaching and "coaches favourites" etc. Add all of this up and it's not too surprising that we've had some poor results and finished where we have done.
We'll finish with a SL spot by the end of the qualifiers and after giving Stones a full preseason and add some new recruits we'll be fine again next season and up there with the best of them like we've become used to. Don't get all of this negativity towards the club and a reason I keep well clear of the site nowadays.

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Quote: moggie "Poor relations of rugby? I've heard it all now. We're not poor relations and have a good income stream and can compete with the top clubs in the competition like we have done for a number of years. Yes we've had a poor season but look how preseason and then the season started with players leaving to go with fallouts within the dressing room, injuries that ended a career, and constant injuries throughout the year, apparent poor coaching and "coaches favourites" etc. Add all of this up and it's not too surprising that we've had some poor results and finished where we have done.
We'll finish with a SL spot by the end of the qualifiers and after giving Stones a full preseason and add some new recruits we'll be fine again next season and up there with the best of them like we've become used to. Don't get all of this negativity towards the club and a reason I keep well clear of the site nowadays.'"



It's not about negativity- it's about reality of why our club has even survived let alone competed. We do so because ken Davy spends at least 1/2 a million pounds a year of his money in order for us to do so!!!! If he didn't we'd be in a very different position!

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Quote: moggie "Poor relations of rugby? I've heard it all now. We're not poor relations and have a good income stream and can compete with the top clubs in the competition like we have done for a number of years. Yes we've had a poor season but look how preseason and then the season started with players leaving to go with fallouts within the dressing room, injuries that ended a career, and constant injuries throughout the year, apparent poor coaching and "coaches favourites" etc. Add all of this up and it's not too surprising that we've had some poor results and finished where we have done.
We'll finish with a SL spot by the end of the qualifiers and after giving Stones a full preseason and add some new recruits we'll be fine again next season and up there with the best of them like we've become used to. Don't get all of this negativity towards the club and a reason I keep well clear of the site nowadays.'"


hope your right

for me we have missed the chance to actually win something now, topping the league and getting in those semi final play off games seem a long way off now, good while it lasted though

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Quote: jools "It's not about negativity- it's about reality of why our club has even survived let alone competed. We do so because ken Davy spends at least 1/2 a million pounds a year of his money in order for us to do so!!!! If he didn't we'd be in a very different position!'"


I have nothing but admiration for Mr Davy, But I do wonder sometimes why a man who is not a traditional RL fan, and not a Huddersfield man, "as far as I know" would keep putting 1/2 a million pounds a year into a business, without the slightest chance of ever getting anything back, except of course 20% of the stadium is always going to be worth something. He would have been far better off with one of a few other clubs, who would have given him a far better return, certainly in terms of paying fans. Bit of a strange one for me.

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Went to school with them and sat next to Toby! Both were always head and shoulders above everyone else. A crime we never picked them up. Although, off the top of my head they were fartown fans when I was a kid (actually, nobody was. I think it was just me and one other girl in my year in the whole school...)

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Quote: Jo Jumbuck "I have nothing but admiration for Mr Davy, But I do wonder sometimes why a man who is not a traditional RL fan, and not a Huddersfield man, "as far as I know" would keep putting 1/2 a million pounds a year into a business, without the slightest chance of ever getting anything back, except of course 20% of the stadium is always going to be worth something. He would have been far better off with one of a few other clubs, who would have given him a far better return, certainly in terms of paying fans. Bit of a strange one for me.'"


His wife is the rugby league fan- she watched the game before they were married. He got involved via sponsorship and I guess like many of us do after being introduced to the sport became a fan.

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Quote: Jo Jumbuck "I have nothing but admiration for Mr Davy, But I do wonder sometimes why a man who is not a traditional RL fan, and not a Huddersfield man, "as far as I know" would keep putting 1/2 a million pounds a year into a business, without the slightest chance of ever getting anything back, except of course 20% of the stadium is always going to be worth something. He would have been far better off with one of a few other clubs, who would have given him a far better return, certainly in terms of paying fans. Bit of a strange one for me.'"



a good piece on ken davy here recently, if you read it all it will give you a few pointers on how he got involved

started with a 6 figure sum to the club as a donation as they were in dire straights, he wanted to remain anonymous too!

rlhttps://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/pride-huddersfield-awards-2016-achievement-11354685rl

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The accounts are for all to see. In debt for £11 million and made a loss of £800,000 in the year to November 2014.

Without sir Ken absolutely bust

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/docu ... 1uWHvQU%3D
The accounts are for all to see. In debt for £11 million and made a loss of £800,000 in the year to November 2014.

Without sir Ken absolutely bust

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/docu ... 1uWHvQU%3D


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As usual jools you always know best however let me tell you the facts of George leaving, he was 19 not 17, last year of Accademy, he felt he had proved himself more than pete aspinall, Jack miller, Liam Johnson, Tyler Dickensian who had been given full time contracts, he went to Paul Anderson and asked what he needed to do to get a full time deal and Anderson said he was lazy and wasn't in his plans, Toby was already at Warrington after pete riding said he wasn't worth a contract, Warrington had wanted George when he was 16 but he signed with giants, they said the would sign him but wouldn't pay the 10k fee, thewlis insisted they get the money so their dad Andy paid it to get George out of the club as be believed George would make it. Riding left soon after to become head of youth at castleford

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