FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Huddersfield Giants > Marquee Player - Giants Against
81 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Code13 , Durham Giant
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1624
JoinedServiceReputation
May 20159 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Nothing much will change really, the same sides will still win everything. At least on the upside we will get the chance to see some top class players hopefully. League needs to keep the S Tomkins quality players over here, and more like him.

RankPostsTeam
International Star4722No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
51052_1304440802.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51052.jpg



Quote: bilko1941 "I think you will find that the cap was brought in to make all teams equal in the money they could spend on players.'"


not at the time it wasnt, plus on that note not a lot of teams have won the cc and gf have they? pretty much like the non cap days

RankPostsTeam
International Star10464
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2023Dec 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
60098_1402496159.jpg
the future's bright the future's [color=#800000:1p3f9jf7]claret [/color:1p3f9jf7] and [color=#FFFF40:1p3f9jf7]gold [/color:1p3f9jf7]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_60098.jpg



Quote: Pieman "not at the time it wasnt, plus on that note not a lot of teams have won the cc and gf have they? pretty much like the non cap days'"



And under the rules probably the only teams who can use the marquee rule will be....... Those teams who have already won the CC and GF......

Stupid idea- the junior amateur game is already losing players to union- this isn't going to stem that flow- just make it heavier.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach2752No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
icons39ad_files/4785-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg
:icons39ad_files/4785-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg



The salary cap has not gone up for years and we are losing players to Australia and Union. However this in my opinion is just an ill thought out gimmick open to abuse.
I don't think increasing the salary cap is going to stop this loss of players and I don't agree with an increase. However if you are going to increase the money available for players salaries why not just stick another £100k on the salary cap. That makes it easy to monitor. What we have instead is a gimmick that will be difficult to monitor.

RankPostsTeam
International Star10464
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2023Dec 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
60098_1402496159.jpg
the future's bright the future's [color=#800000:1p3f9jf7]claret [/color:1p3f9jf7] and [color=#FFFF40:1p3f9jf7]gold [/color:1p3f9jf7]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_60098.jpg



Quote: the stella kid "The salary cap has not gone up for years and we are losing players to Australia and Union. However this in my opinion is just an ill thought out gimmick open to abuse.
I don't think increasing the salary cap is going to stop this loss of players and I don't agree with an increase. However if you are going to increase the money available for players salaries why not just stick another £100k on the salary cap. That makes it easy to monitor. What we have instead is a gimmick that will be difficult to monitor.'"


Indeed and sticking another 100k on the cap is less likely to lead to clubs putting all their financial eggs in one basket and finding its a duck!
Stick a bit extra on the cap every couple of years, allows clubs to keep up rather than widening the gap between the haves and have nots.

RankPostsTeam
International Star4722No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
51052_1304440802.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51052.jpg



get rid of the cap and ;ets see

RankPostsTeam
International Star7No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201510 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2015Jul 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



If there is spare money available it would be better used bringing homegrown players through. Building younger players and helping them progress to the top flight. Giving one "Super Star" a greatly inflated salary is not going to make the rest of the team also Super stars. Todd Carney being a case in point. Certainly a star player when fit but Catalans also have some very talented players to back him up would he have been a marquee player if he'd waited a couple of years before signing for Dragons? As for signing big names from NRL increasing interest from the general public IMO the general public who aren't interested in RL now will not give flying damn about a big name signing from Aus.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach649No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2021Sep 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
simpsons/PDT1.gif
:simpsons/PDT1.gif



Stupid idea which could lead to trouble for some teams in the future with regards to unrest in the camp due to over inflated wages of a team mate. Just sums Koukash up does this idea, he came into SL with a blaze of glory and threw good money after bad always spouting off in the media about what he was going to do and how Salford were going to win things and where has that got him and his club?
Luckily for us we've got an established set up from academy to first team which is now bearing fruit after such a long time in building, to go with that we've got a very settled and accomplished first team who are top 4 material and we should be able to ride the storm and maybe not need a marque signing to keep up with the teams that chose to go down that route.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15511
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2020Sep 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
43854_1545310668.jpg
HUDDERSFIELD - THE BIRTHPLACE OF RUGBY LEAGUE:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_43854.jpg



The argument they put forward is that it will help stop us losing our top players to union and the NRL such as Burgess and Tomkins who have left before

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach649No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2021Sep 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
simpsons/PDT1.gif
:simpsons/PDT1.gif



Club statement on the change. Can't say I disagree with anything they said.

"Huddersfield Giants wish to reassure all supporters of the Giants that they did not “embrace the marquee player rule” as implied by an RFL press release yesterday.
We believe that the Marquee concept is fundamentally flawed and have consistently argued against it. Our view is that it is against the interests of home grown players and the equality of the Super League competition. The idea of a Club being able to pay an unlimited amount outside of the salary cap for a so called marquee player had already been rejected on three previous occasions and a third of clubs still voted against it on Wednesday. The fact is that the proposal put forward by the RFL executive was subjected to an initial amendment and then further amendment after clubs in favour were unable again to agree on the detail. The result was a cobbled together compromise which could still not gain the unanimous support of the Super League clubs.
Giants Managing Director Richard Thewlis who attended the Super League meeting on behalf of the Huddersfield Giants said: “We have never been in favour of the Marquee Player proposal and I have lost count of the number of different ideas that have been floated, tabled and discussed, not one of which has ever gained a majority prior to yesterday’s meeting and even then tactical voting was needed to get any semblance of agreement through. This decision creates an uneven playing field as only two or three of the richest clubs will be able to afford to take advantage of it just at time when spectators are enjoying greater uncertainty of outcome which is delivering closer games and greater excitement along with the tightest league table ever. The Marquee player rule will give an unfair advantage to the richer clubs which the salary cap was designed to prevent. In my view it does nothing for the development of English players and is against the long term interests of the game.”

RankPostsTeam
International Star10464
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2023Dec 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
60098_1402496159.jpg
the future's bright the future's [color=#800000:1p3f9jf7]claret [/color:1p3f9jf7] and [color=#FFFF40:1p3f9jf7]gold [/color:1p3f9jf7]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_60098.jpg



Quote: brearley84 "The argument they put forward is that it will help stop us losing our top players to union and the NRL such as Burgess and Tomkins who have left before'"


the argument is Rot, the players will already have left before they become "marquee"
Already a large number of junior players are defecting to union as the union clubs are now starting to run more junior sides and have better facilities to offer than many amateur league sides.
the same three clubs that currently win the prizes on a regular basis will be the only clubs to afford a "marquee" player and so will be the only ones to cash in on any potential revenue ...... and be able to afford a marquee player.
That wont attract spectators to the sport in general, low crowds, one sided games, lack of growth, so why would players rather play league?

RankPostsTeam
International Star518
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Aug 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
67930_1405527002.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_67930.jpg



It worries me when I agree with every word Thewlis has to say - but I do. This benefits the few with no benefits to the many, the wider game or the future of the game. Of all the changes needed to Rugby League in this country, this wouldn't reach the Top 100 in my priority list.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1624
JoinedServiceReputation
May 20159 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: jools "the argument is Rot, the players will already have left before they become "marquee"
Already a large number of junior players are defecting to union as the union clubs are now starting to run more junior sides and have better facilities to offer than many amateur league sides.
the same three clubs that currently win the prizes on a regular basis will be the only clubs to afford a "marquee" player and so will be the only ones to cash in on any potential revenue ...... and be able to afford a marquee player.
That wont attract spectators to the sport in general, low crowds, one sided games, lack of growth, so why would players rather play league?'"


It's hard to argue with any of the club statement, I don't see it making any difference at all the same clubs who have won everything will continue to do so, There may be a few more quality youngsters come available from the likes of Wigan ( we have done very well from them in the past ). we'll have to wait and see.

The one thing it will not do, is stop our players going to Union, It has left league way behind in every aspect other than on the field ( and that's debatable with the super twelve teams ) Whether we like it or not they know how to run their sport, they are a truly world wide sport that is awash with money, I don't care how good a player is at League, if Union come along and offer him the right deal he will be off, Just like Harris, Robinson, Farrell ,Edwards and countless others, even Sir Kevin.

If our best players continue to go to Union ( which they will ) and we just ship in Aussies who are past their best it will be a disaster. I do want to watch top class players, but will we get them.

I can see the argument for developing more youngsters, but the more you do ,the more Union will take and they will take the cream.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15511
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2020Sep 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
43854_1545310668.jpg
HUDDERSFIELD - THE BIRTHPLACE OF RUGBY LEAGUE:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_43854.jpg



we will have to watch this space i suppose

but as a Giants fan its not something to get excited about, maybe if your a warrington/salford fan it is..some league fans may also look forward to seeing some quality players come in or be kept in SL

RankPostsTeam
International Star10464
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2023Dec 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
60098_1402496159.jpg
the future's bright the future's [color=#800000:1p3f9jf7]claret [/color:1p3f9jf7] and [color=#FFFF40:1p3f9jf7]gold [/color:1p3f9jf7]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_60098.jpg



As pointed out by a Cas fan - the NRL can't stop their players going to union-so this marquee signing rule certainly won't!!!

81 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Code13 , Durham Giant
81 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Code13 , Durham Giant



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


4.0234375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Grand final Tickets
JIMMY MAGNET
10
6m
Questions for Ste Mills
vastman
9
12m
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Jack Gaskell
13
19m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
christopher
10105
47m
Season tickets
Hudd-Shay
11
52m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40184
54m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62590
55m
TV Games - Not Hull
ComeOnYouUll
2931
55m
Film game
Boss Hog
4086
Recent
Leigh it is
WWste
102
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
35s
2024 IMG gradings
Victor
3
35s
Questions for Ste Mills
vastman
9
36s
TV games not Wire
Cherry_Warri
3569
38s
Sam Burgess
morleys_deck
9
47s
Decision on the field
MR FRISK
17
48s
Play-off semi-final
Prince Buste
22
49s
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Jack Gaskell
13
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40184
1m
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
Barstool Pre
1
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
leedsbarmyar
2421
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Seeking favourite images from grounds - past or present
retrosports
1
TODAY
Grand final Tickets
JIMMY MAGNET
10
TODAY
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
Barstool Pre
1
TODAY
Questions for Ste Mills
vastman
9
TODAY
Decision on the field
MR FRISK
17
TODAY
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
morleys_deck
24
TODAY
Worst semi
Barstool Pre
5
TODAY
2025 TRANSFER AND RETENTION RUMOURS
Tony Fax
3
TODAY
Sam Burgess
morleys_deck
9
TODAY
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fightback To Secure Grand Final Spot
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Squad 2025
Nat (Rugby_A
1
TODAY
Tonights match v HKR
Or thane
92
TODAY
Isa 1 year extension
Trainman
11
TODAY
2024 IMG gradings
Victor
3
TODAY
Championship Awards
FIL
10
TODAY
Season tickets
Hudd-Shay
11
TODAY
Best Semi
sir adrian m
13
TODAY
Ben Condon is a Leopard
Jack Gaskell
1
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Jack Gaskell
13
TODAY
Any decent RL reads for me hols
norbellini
1
TODAY
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
TODAY
Man of Steel
matt_wire
8
TODAY
Guest appearance
AgbriggAmble
2
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
202
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
290
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
827
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
875
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1255
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1479
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1214
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1624
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1324
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1559
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1738
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
2076
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1691
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1725
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
2048
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.64M +13,350 80,13214,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 TODAY
     National Rugby League 2024-R31
09:30
Melbourne
v
Penrith
       League One 2024-R26
15:00
Keighley
v
Hunslet
       Championship 2024-R29
15:00
Bradford
v
Featherstone
     Womens Super League 2024-R16
16:30
York V
v
St.HelensW
 Sat 12th Oct
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R30
18:00
Hull KR
v
Wigan
 Sun 27th Oct
     Mens Internationals 2024-R2
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
 Sat 2nd Nov
     Womens Internationals 2024-R2
12:00
ENGLAND W
v
WALES W
     Mens Internationals 2024-R3
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Sun 6th Oct
L1
15:00
Keighley-Hunslet
WSL2024
16:30
York V-St.HelensW
NRL
09:30
Melbourne-Penrith
Sat 12th Oct
SL
18:00
Hull KR-Wigan
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 5th Oct
CH 29 York27-10Widnes
SL 29 Wigan38-0Leigh
Fri 4th Oct
SL 29 Hull KR10-8Warrington
Sun 29th Sep
L1 25 Rochdale26-46Hunslet
CH 28 Barrow24-26Widnes
CH 28 Bradford50-0Swinton
CH 28 Dewsbury28-8Sheffield
CH 28 Wakefield72-6Doncaster
CH 28 Whitehaven23-20Halifax
CH 28 York16-6Featherstone
Sat 28th Sep
CH 28 Toulouse64-16Batley
SL 28 Warrington23-22St.Helens
NRL 30 Penrith26-6Cronulla
Fri 27th Sep
SL 28 Salford6-14Leigh
NRL 30 Melbourne48-18Sydney
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 28 759 336 423 46
Hull KR 28 729 335 394 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 26 1010 262 748 50
Toulouse 25 744 368 376 35
Bradford 26 678 387 291 34
York 28 682 479 203 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 26 622 500 122 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Swinton 27 474 670 -196 18
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Grand final Tickets
JIMMY MAGNET
10
6m
Questions for Ste Mills
vastman
9
12m
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Jack Gaskell
13
19m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
christopher
10105
47m
Season tickets
Hudd-Shay
11
52m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40184
54m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62590
55m
TV Games - Not Hull
ComeOnYouUll
2931
55m
Film game
Boss Hog
4086
Recent
Leigh it is
WWste
102
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
35s
2024 IMG gradings
Victor
3
35s
Questions for Ste Mills
vastman
9
36s
TV games not Wire
Cherry_Warri
3569
38s
Sam Burgess
morleys_deck
9
47s
Decision on the field
MR FRISK
17
48s
Play-off semi-final
Prince Buste
22
49s
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Jack Gaskell
13
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40184
1m
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
Barstool Pre
1
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
leedsbarmyar
2421
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Seeking favourite images from grounds - past or present
retrosports
1
TODAY
Grand final Tickets
JIMMY MAGNET
10
TODAY
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
Barstool Pre
1
TODAY
Questions for Ste Mills
vastman
9
TODAY
Decision on the field
MR FRISK
17
TODAY
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
morleys_deck
24
TODAY
Worst semi
Barstool Pre
5
TODAY
2025 TRANSFER AND RETENTION RUMOURS
Tony Fax
3
TODAY
Sam Burgess
morleys_deck
9
TODAY
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fightback To Secure Grand Final Spot
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Squad 2025
Nat (Rugby_A
1
TODAY
Tonights match v HKR
Or thane
92
TODAY
Isa 1 year extension
Trainman
11
TODAY
2024 IMG gradings
Victor
3
TODAY
Championship Awards
FIL
10
TODAY
Season tickets
Hudd-Shay
11
TODAY
Best Semi
sir adrian m
13
TODAY
Ben Condon is a Leopard
Jack Gaskell
1
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Jack Gaskell
13
TODAY
Any decent RL reads for me hols
norbellini
1
TODAY
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
TODAY
Man of Steel
matt_wire
8
TODAY
Guest appearance
AgbriggAmble
2
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
202
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
290
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
827
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
875
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1255
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1479
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1214
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1624
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1324
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1559
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1738
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
2076
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1691
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1725
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
2048


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!