Grix, bruno, Woody and Roberts played for oldham today ..... They lost 11-10.....

I thought from the start that your guys just didn't seem up for it today and come half time I couldn't see us losing. Danny Brough was more interested in arguing with the ref than playing. All Hull fans should be satisfied with the result and the performance but the sensible ones wont be getting carried away.

Can`t understand our fans reaction saying the Giants were poor. That was a great defensive display from Hull today, and if the opposition tackle like they did it is hard to break them down.

Playing like we did GS -we couldnt break a Kit Kat!

And what yer all moaning about ? ---a fine reffing display !
Haven`t seen better this season!

Sad truth is that the ref was poor but very much better than most of our players.

Having slept on it I feel no better, we were very poor indeed. That should not take any credit away from Hull who comfortably beat the team facing them. Sadly we did not really test them.

What I really want to know is why do our props carry the ball so little - is it a deliberate tactic or are they just soft?

Once again our line speed in defence is too slow. We should be moving far more quickly in defence we give away 8 yards every tackle.

However by far and away our worst aspect was our attack. Pick the ball up from acting half, past it to a player stood still. Watch as he gets tackled after making 3 yards, rinse and repeat. How many of our forwards run onto the ball? Actually scrap that because when they do, like Bailey in the first half, our hooker throws the ball so fast they haven't a hope of catching it.

TBF Hull weren't much better, Anderson is right there was nothing in the game for most of it. Two poor sides playing poorly. However at least some of their forwards were running onto the ball at pace and Shaul was very elusive running from FB (he did well to recover from an early error as well).

Brough was awful. His kicks never found space early on which meant Hull were setting up on their 35 yard line. His one touch finder in the first half was on the 30 yard line so wasn't much better.

We never won the "arm wrestle". Then again we never tried. In our first 3 sets Huby had one carry. Why do we persist with running the ball out with our backs early in the game? We need to use our props more to sap the opposition's energy and drag more defenders towards the play the ball. Instead we have two drives from our wingers, one from our centres and then shift it wide.

Finally why do we bother playing Broughton? Not a dig at him it just seems that if we're going to play Wardle in our left centre a left winger is a bit of a luxury since he seems allergic to passing.

As an aside can anyone explain why Hull chose to play into the setting sun in the first half? Ok it worked for them but it wouldn't be a tactic I'd choose.

I'm not going to get too concerned about that performance just as I wouldn't get too carried away if we'd won 19-0. My main concern is that, while we were reasonably solid defensively, a lot of the issues that were there throughout last season appear to remain.

The next 4 games will tell us all we need to know.

Intensity and running speed! Why is it we insist on allowing the opposition to crash onto us? When defending we take one step forward and allow them to hit our line at speed! So frustrating!
Hull were getting three and four into a tackle making it hard to get a quick play the ball and our lads going singular or in pairs which allowed the offload!

Overall I think we contained them well for the majority very rare they got into our half before the kick.
The ref did allow a lot more pressure to come our way! Which at times was unwarranted.

I honestly feel that it was just the creativeness and link that we had an issue with! Brough and Ellis will need time to gel and work on the second instinct stuff that only comes with game time!

Disappointing start with it being our first home game, had two newbies with me today! So it will be hard to convince them to come back without our boys picking up the pace!

A lot of things picked up on and mentioned so far are our tactics!
Therefore there is one person to blame- the coach. Don't get me wrong, I'm not starting an Anderson out campaign (just yet) but some of his decisions over the last 12 months have been questionable.
As it stands it appears he is clipping the wings of certain players, mainly our props.
How often do you see a prop run onto a ball, draw 3 defenders then offload?
Eorl used to do it all the time.

It's a speciality of Hubys. Didn't see it yesterday, I saw him try it once but there was nobody on his shoulder.

Jodie Broughton is not going to make any metres out of defence and Murphy will eventually get injured as 3 or 4 defenders repeatedly smash him as he tries to run it out.

I thought this fella would bring the best out of our forwards. Not hinder them.

It's a long season but it sure feels like it is going to be one based on the tripe served up yesterday.

No enthusiasm. Inability to complete the basics. Take the armband off Brough please and let him focus on the game.

Strangest refereeing decision yesterday when Roby somehow thought an accidental offside via the clearing kick from a Hull player hit our man and gave them a scrum when it should havebeen a penalty to us. Not sure how he messed that up.

If Ellis is going to be first choice half back then he has to be given some responsibility. I am not saying it should be 50/50 but he should be making at least 25% of the calls in attack. As it was i think he got the ball about 5% of the time and Brough the other 95%.
We need the half backs to perform as we no longer have the likes of Faiumu and Patrick that could spark the team into life with a moment of individual skill.
I thought the defence went well. Of their three tries one was from a forward pass and the last one was down to Brough rushing out of the line and missing his man.
However in attack there was no cohesion. The backs never got the ball in any space and the play the ball was slowed down well by Hull meaning the forwards never gained any momentum.
And please can the management address Brough and his constant arguing with the ref. It is not doing any favours. He needs to concentrate on his game.

We were POOR and played dumb rugby again. When will these players learn that if they give penalties away then they are going to get beaten.
An example in the first half was Hull coming from their try line, Hudds give away a penalty then another which brought Hull into OUR 20 metre zone and they score.
What has changed from last year? Nothing, but I hope I am proved wrong.
I agree with a previous submission, bring a buddy and watch us cock it up AGAIN, the buddy won't be back.
Stop the players talking about what they are going to do in the Examiner and make them start playing like they have the potential.
One bright spot was Murphy at full back, barring injuries Grix won't get back at full back I hope.

There needs to be an epiphany of some kind at the coaching level. We get a good prop in like Huby to give us more but unless the current props step up and show more mongrel then all that'll happen is Huby will go soft too.

Eorl is too upright and too nice. He was on twitter mentioning he was gutted not to be shooting in the morning. His career getting in the way eh! Crack on like that and he'll be back shooting clays sooner than he thinks. They're all too nice. Ellis giving Eorl that dig yesterday that the old biddy linesman missed; when can you imagine any of our lot doing that? Hull played with more enthusiasm than us and as a result they get a bit more leeway. We are so half a4sed that it's embarrassing. And then with 10mins left we try to play a bit. 70mins too late.