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| Quote: Mike Oxlong "Foul mouthed little scumbag!! !'"
your not seriously complaining about bad language? The stuff coming from the terraces is a lot worse believe me!
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| Chin up Danny mate, i can see where your frustration is coming from and it must seem as if the whole of rugby league is against you at present. I'll never forget what you did for us in your time at Cas. Dig in mate cos a lot of these criticising you aren't fit to lace your boots.
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| Quote: Danril "We have lost focus and lost our composure. Dropping Brough won't get it back.
This may seem a bit outlandish but I'd give the captaincy to someone else to stop Brough's interaction with referees. He is an emotional bloke and it's getting the better of him ATM. When Bailey is on the park let him be captain and interact with the refs.Quote: Danril "THIS +1'" '"
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Drop DB and we are stuffed. He needs more support from Luke who at the moment can only give telegraphed / hospital / drop off passes and has trouble catching the ball. The main problem at the moment is COMPOSURE. We are getting into some good positions and then just chucking it away. Teams are upping their game and putting us under pressure from the off and we can't handle it at the moment. Hopefully a good rest before the Easter period will perk us up.
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| Don't think dropping Brough is a good idea. He's a confidence player, dropping him or even relieving him of his captaincy could destroy him mentally! The same attitude that makes him think he can make a try out of nothing and take on a whole defense on his own does sometimes boil over into lashing out at officials with his tongue, you either accept that aspect of him or leave him out. I'd certainly rather have him in our team
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| Brough played out of his skin last year and hardly missed a game, then add in the world cup to that he has hardly had a break. We will be the only club with 2 short turn arounds in april, we need to rest our key players. Especially with what we should be saying are games we should be winning against Salford, Wakefield, Tigers, London & Bradford before we have the run of Saints, Wigan, Leeds.
This is NO dig at Danny, he and Lunt for me are our best players. However, a week in the sun with the family might do him some good (other sports do it). Lunty was right on twitter nothing is won in April but keeping our players fit and getting their heads right for the second half of the season is key.
As for “Assuming we should win next 2 games is a bit arrogant” not sure that is arrogant but the team who finished top of the league in 2013 should be expected to beat the teams who finished 14,11,12,13 and 9th?
When we talk of confidence I hope that people aren’t going to jump on the Grix bandwagon again, thought he has had a solid start to the season. Apart from mistakes last night and probably letting everything over the last few weeks boiler over and he let his frustrations out.
p.s. you can delete this topic if you want, its only a discussion.
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| I have never noticed Brough before with the blatant show and go where he openly displays the ball in the palm of his hand.Is this a new tactic?Who is it supposed to fool.Is it a lack of ideas from him or his team mates not giving him options?Not criticizing at all,Just wondering as a casual viewer.
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| Brough has always been like that, but as a captain he's going to have to get that chip off his shoulder and learn to channel his aggression better, but at least it shows he cares I suppose.
The one man who stood out as been particularly poor for you was Grix. Through petulance he gave away a penalty when you had the ball which led to a try (could have easily got himself a card too). Then he took a big shot from Ellis and Westerman and wasn't interested after that. Hardly ran with the ball, just shovelled it on to a winger regardless of what position they were in. Then to cap it off he costs another try by being out enthused when Yeaman kicked through.
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| Brough played ok lastnight, much better kicking from him.
may get a ban next week though.
as will grix which could see the return of connor which will be good to see
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| Intetsted in the comments regarding bad language on the terrace and DB swearing at the ref. Difference between the 2 is DB is bound by the laws of the game that he is being paid to play, foul and abusive language is not permitted. Fair enough frustration enthusiasm gets the better of people, but as captain he needs to be able to show some level of control or he will be forced to sit at the side by the ref.
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| Danny's not playing well at the moment and he's currently channelling that disappointment and anger at his own game in the wrong way. I'm sure he'd be the first to admit it. As Captain he does need to look at this as he sets the example.
However, I think talk of dropping him is ridiculous - he's still one of our better performers each week even when far below his own standards - and talk of stripping him of the Captaincy far too little early. This is the same guy who led us to Top of the Table, won Man of Steel and performed brilliantly in the World Cup and then 7 or 8 games later he's suddenly not good enough to even get in the team. Absolutely ridiculous.
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| PA just needs to take Danny to one side and explain that bad-mouthing the referee is not acceptable. This keeps him in the ref's eye and every little incident is picked up by the official. He's far too valuable to your team to not be on the pitch. Good luck for the rest of the season, we need Yorkshire teams to be dominating the competition.
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| Danny's problem is the same as the other 16 players every week, the coaching staff and the supporters - a total lack of confidence !! last year we won games we were 2nd best in simply because of the confidence within the whole club, this year is different, we have started off badly and aren't playing well, things that the players did last year or even in pre-season are not coming off for them so they are frustrated.
When you have a player as talented as Brough is this will naturally affect his game as he is the leader, the one who makes us tick.
We need to win a match, once that happens the players will believe in themselves again.
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| Quote: Unbeliever "Danny's not playing well at the moment and he's currently channelling that disappointment and anger at his own game in the wrong way. I'm sure he'd be the first to admit it. As Captain he does need to look at this as he sets the example.
However, I think talk of dropping him is ridiculous - he's still one of our better performers each week even when far below his own standards - and talk of stripping him of the Captaincy far too little early. This is the same guy who led us to Top of the Table, won Man of Steel and performed brilliantly in the World Cup and then 7 or 8 games later he's suddenly not good enough to even get in the team. Absolutely ridiculous.'"
From a Cas fan - Brough is a brilliant player when his forwards are on top. It gives him room to manouver and his kicking is second to none. Therein lies the problem, your forwards are not playing well. They are being out enthused, look like they have no real energy and are not making the hard yards. Overall they are not bullying the opposition as they have done previously. Brough more than most half backs needs to be playing behind a strong, dominant pack. If not, his petulant side comes to the fore as it did last night. Sort your forwards out and Brough will come good again.
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| Quote: Sarge "From a Cas fan - Brough is a brilliant player when his forwards are on top. It gives him room to manouver and his kicking is second to none. Therein lies the problem, your forwards are not playing well. They are being out enthused, look like they have no real energy and are not making the hard yards. Overall they are not bullying the opposition as they have done previously. Brough more than most half backs needs to be playing behind a strong, dominant pack. If not, his petulant side comes to the fore as it did last night. Sort your forwards out and Brough will come good again.'"
That could easily have been posted by a Giants fan who has seen every game and until we at least give as good as we get in the forwards we are going nowhere fast.
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| I think teams are taking Hudds more seriously after last season. Gone are the days where you play Hudds and you are guaranteed 2 points.
Also Brough is a good player. @ saints last season we were crying out for a 6/7 and if we would of signed Brough I would of been happy.
Your form will pick up over the course of the season. You deserved the win in the CC
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