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Quote: Danril "Hey, he doesn't care what we think anyways so I may as well question why he's taking the squad to SA...

Why are they going to SA? We're playing here FFS. If he wants them to stay as a group he can book a hotel here, sending them to a different climate and slightly different time zone is, well, pick a word...'"


I presume by SA you don't mean South Almondbury?

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why are we all suprised when he cant even pick the current man of steel, hes not going to pick eorl above tom burgess is he, that to me is the most baffling pick, no problems with mossop or hill tbh, just hope he doesnt pick hock and mciilorum together or we are in trouble 2 penaly machines.

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as for hock and chase, well some may not believe they should be in the team.. but what they do bring is the ability to change games and also win games on their own sometimes!

they are risks but if we dont take the risks then we are never going to beat NZ and Aus.

looking forward to the world cup and cheering the lads on...obviously disappointing no crabtree/brough though

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Hock is a liabilty who should be nowhere near the squad.

Ablett though is in decent form and worth a place in the squad but should not be first choice. He is far better though than Wilkin or JJB who i feared would be picked.

Hardaker is a must pick as who else is going to cover for fullback if Tomkins gets injured.

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Quote: Chetnik "Anyone else going to be cheering for Sctoland and Wales in the World cup?'"



No but i will be cheering Ireland

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Quote: the stella kid "

Hardaker is a must pick as who else is going to cover for fullback if Tomkins gets injured.'"


Exactly .

Well done for pointing out the obvious . eusa_clap.gif

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Quote: Chetnik "Anyone else going to be cheering for Sctoland and Wales in the World cup?'"

no, im English and will support England, however I hope all our players have good tournaments and that they come back unscathed!

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I would go with a 17 of

Tomkins
charnley
cudjoe
Watkins
hall
widdop
chase
hill
roby
graham
s.burgess
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sinfield

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England have no chance of winning it, both Australia and New Zealand are miles ahead of us, at least they can't blame it on our players for not winning it.

McBanna has a few weeks left before he gets the boot.

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Quote: brearley84 "why is ferres going to south africa if he is not in the squad? ok he may get called up incase of injuries but again strange... ferres hasnt done enough to get in the england world cup team anyway recently.'"


In case O'Loughlin isn't fit.

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McBanana is a buffoon. We had to put up with him as head coach for too long and these picks just prove what he is.

McIllorum has been below average, Roby has hardly played, and Lunt has been the best hooker with Higham just behind. Brett Ferres is the stand out second rower this season, and big Earole has been excellent apart from a couple of dodgy performances right at the end. You have a right to feel a bit peeved!!

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Not the best selections, it seems that if you play in Oz it automatically makes you better than players over here...no Eorl or Lunt is baffling really.Maybe there is a perfectly understandable reason why these 2 have been overlooked...

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Quote: the stella kid "Hock is a liabilty who should be nowhere near the squad.

Ablett though is in decent form and worth a place in the squad but should not be first choice. He is far better though than Wilkin or JJB who i feared would be picked.

Hardaker is a must pick as who else is going to cover for fullback if Tomkins gets injured.'"


Ratchford? can cover full back, centre and halves

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Widdop - seeing as it's going to be Leeds in the halves.

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mossop showed against you and leeds that he is better than crabtree, but crabtree should of been in place of tom burgess who has only played a handful of games and hasn't really stood out in them.

Mcilorum is an old school hooker, Lunt is an identical copy of Roby and Roby has been shown to be ineffective against aus. Unless you win the majority of the ruck lunt and roby become average.

ferres has been in great form and is in the cover squad because he's no better than o'loughlin, westwood, burgess or hock.

Brough withdrew him self because the coach didn't come crawling to him pleading to accept an England invite.

And on top of that your big players have choked in the play offs

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