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I would suggest e-mails to both the RFL and Warrington detailing your experiences fellas .

Only by enough people highlighting these things will anything change .

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Quote: meast "it was pathetic and good job our fans can control themselves or there could have been another 'widnes' situation.
frankly they are a disgrace to warrington rlfc and the people that employ them should be given a talking to.
not one person stepped out of line last night,even the lad with the e-cig was calm about it all and despite protesting his innocence they still thought it was ok to grab him by the collar and try and drag him out. despite their been women and children there they just wanted to throw their weight around and it could have led to serious disorder.
the fact that after been told that what they doing was illegal not to mention none of them had licensed badges on eventually saw them relent and go and bully some other innocent people.
the bit at the end was truly pathetic and a shame ,again, looks bad on warrington. they deserve better than these monkeys!'"

Meast. Not being critical, but you've got it the wrong way round. The Widnes situation was caused purely and simply by Widnes fans. The situation regarding the steward would not have happened if the Widnes fans had behaved (and the pudding regarding the steward incident has been over-egged anyway, no-one at the Daily Mail bothered to ask the Widnes fan what he was doing in the middle of the trouble).
Having said that, your fans were an absolute credit to your club last night and it was great to see fans of both sides mixing in the pubs both before and after the game last night.

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Yeah, any gripes with the stewarding should be directed at the respective clubs and the RFL

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Quote: FARTOWNFORLIFE "I saw the whole inident. From the steward barging his way through the crowd like a man on a mission shouting "move out of my way" to then nearly knock a young lass over and knocking people's drinks with his over aggressive behaviour. He then gripped the lad smoking the e cig by the collar and tried dragging him through spaces that weren't there.

The lad was calm but explained what is was. Instead of eating humble pie and sliding back under his stone he insisted on standing there for a good 10 minutes trying to wind folk up.

In the end he did leave without anybody in tow. That for me is straight up assault. It wasn't lawful ejection as nobody was ejected.

It could have got ugly, well done to people for not reacting.

The club really needs to look into this!'"


Take it you were at the back then ?
He waded through all the lasses and kids at the back if it's the same incident.

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As regarding "overzealous" stewards...just to point out that those involved are not actual STEWARDS, they are security. Reaction to the "alco-pop" bottle blame on Salford and Hull where bottled ended up on the pitch. Overall reaction blame Widnes. Stopping players coming to the fans blame, probably, the RFL because of Widnes and Hull.

Not saying that all actions were correct, and by all means contact the clubc with any issues but the initial basis of actions is based on orders/instruction they have been given....which are usually dicatated by previous actions.

Personally I would love to see Warrington have there own inhouse "security" as their own stewards are usually more polite and approachable (and I know a lot of them are foremost Warrington rugby fans to start with)

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Quote: FARTOWNFORLIFE "I saw the whole inident. From the steward barging his way through the crowd like a man on a mission shouting "move out of my way" to then nearly knock a young lass over and knocking people's drinks with his over aggressive behaviour. He then gripped the lad smoking the e cig by the collar and tried dragging him through spaces that weren't there.

The lad was calm but explained what is was. Instead of eating humble pie and sliding back under his stone he insisted on standing there for a good 10 minutes trying to wind folk up.

In the end he did leave without anybody in tow. That for me is straight up assault. It wasn't lawful ejection as nobody was ejected.

It could have got ugly, well done to people for not reacting.

The club really needs to look into this!'"

you must have been near me then?
the bald idiot only backed down after been informed that he has no legal right to eject anyone because he couldn't prove he was licensed, 4 times he was asked where his badge was!! he also was shown up by being informed that what the lad was doing was LEGAL and that he cant eject anyone for doing something legal, he was a total p**k and he would have deserved a smack if someone had have lost their cool with him.

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Quote: Teessidewire "Meast. Not being critical, but you've got it the wrong way round. The Widnes situation was caused purely and simply by Widnes fans. The situation regarding the steward would not have happened if the Widnes fans had behaved (and the pudding regarding the steward incident has been over-egged anyway, no-one at the Daily Mail bothered to ask the Widnes fan what he was doing in the middle of the trouble).
Having said that, your fans were an absolute credit to your club last night and it was great to see fans of both sides mixing in the pubs both before and after the game last night.'"

I was meaning the bit about kicking off, im not saying the "stewards" caused it, just saying had we had idiots like widnes who don't need a 2nd invitation to kick off it could have been a lot worse.

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Quote: GIANT DAZ "Take it you were at the back then ?
He waded through all the lasses and kids at the back if it's the same incident.'"


Yep. So saw everything! A few on here blaming Salford and Widnes fans but surely hiring thugs to deal with thugs is a recipe for disaster.

Common sense tells you when you need security, ie certain teams. However if the club is that worried they should pay for more policing!

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I think even the decent Wire fans are getting fed up with these guys, seriously, anyone one who saw what happened or was involved at all, write a seriously worded email to that effect, otherwise this will occur on every visit.

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It was similar in the cup, the stewards were over jealous then too, but last night was downright out of order.

Wire fans seem to be blaming it on Widnes, who are with respect their local rivals, we are not.

I don't remember having any issues at Widnes with their stewards, so they don't seem to over police other clubs fans.

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I think it's the fact Widnes forced the stewards hands by acting like animals, since then, they've stepped it up a notch and now act like they own the stadium.

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could warrington not hire regular stewards who could interact with fans and see things from their perspective rather than employ idiot thugs who are there it seems to wind people up to the point where it kicks off?
just a thought, as it seems to work well at other clubs.

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Simple solution .... boycott the venue .... Wire will act when it hits them in the pocket!

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Quote: meast "could warrington not hire regular stewards who could interact with fans and see things from their perspective rather than employ idiot thugs who are there it seems to wind people up to the point where it kicks off?
just a thought, as it seems to work well at other clubs.'"


They do. The "stewards" who are often the ones criticised in public are not stewards, they are security (they wear the orange jackets). Warrington directly employ its own stewards (usually the ones wearing yellow vests/jackets...but not the Showsec ones) to help spectators, sort out problems, interact with fans, deal with list kids, check on people who might need first aid etc . Go around Warrington at a weekend and you will often see these people out shopping etc because they are from the town and many are Warrington fans. The "stewards" who get slagged are actually "bouncers" employed from out of town and are there so that the club has "enforcement" to meet the requirements of its licence. The alternative would be to pay for policing and then they would be accused of turning it into a football (soccer) ground.

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why is the alternative to pay for policing. other grounds dont employ security firms they employ stewards so why not just do that!

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