Personally I don't really care if anyone thinks i'm a loyal fan or not.

As for other people if they pays their money they can say what they want.

I'd rather it was positive stuff but it's human nature to be critical.

Get a grip everyone.

At least someone has a bit of perspective.

You said it unbeleiver the league leaders shield means nothing (unless of course you go on to win the grand final) .

On the plus side you could still go on to win it but i think that would mean avoiding Wire in the semi or final

I expect you to beat hull by 20 +

Same old same old every one on here has a moan now and again.

If the team doesn't play well people will debate over why it's a forum for debate, good or bad. No one in any job has the right to be exempt from criticism or advice.

If I get my forecast wrong at work people will have a grumble this is no different my boss or team wouldn't say he's great if I get it wrong. I'd get some constructive criticism so despite the fact I wasn't going to as I think Wigan played the game/conditions better here is mine for what it's worth.

We were a forward light last week Shaun Wane saw this and got his game plan just right and it was aided by 80 minutes of rain.

Wigan played to the edge of what Bentham allowed and were in our faces for 80 minutes. We stood back and let a big pack get momentum in nearly every run.

We tackled well but far too often because our completion rate was poor and we kept dropping the ball on the first tackle.

It proved to me against the top side we need an extra forward and Kyle Wood is a luxury when Fuey can spell Lunty for 20/25 mins.

We didn't play that badly just our attack and famous left side was snuffed out by a Wigan side that had three men on Brett Ferres every time.

So no disaster just a need for a better plan and a tweak of the team 'in my opinion!!!' For me Baloo got it marginally wrong and margins are very fine at this level in these games.

There's no reason why we shouldn't beat Hull and then Wire or Wigan but we need the right plan and it to be executed properly on the day.

If the other team has a better plan or plays better on the day move on as no team has the right to win or be told they have done well if they haven't.

do we think ferres goes missing in the big games??

had a great season but not shown up well in the big ones just yet, maybe teams are targeting him as we use him alot in attack

Might infuriate a few on here but I've never understood why someone would want to leave a game early in the first place. I could understand it if they were going to miss their last train or bus home but anything else bewilders me. You spend your hard earned money to watch an 80 minute game and end up leaving 5 minutes before its finished. You could miss the greatest try of all or even a once in a life time comeback to save a few minutes in traffic. I wouldn't have a go at anyone who does leave early by me as its up to them but I wouldn't do it.

The funniest thing I've seen was when I was watching Town v Lincoln in the JPT. We were 2-0 down going into injury time and the majority of the crowd had left. We went on to score 2 goals in injury time and then became the first team to win by the golden goal. All those who opened their morning papers must have thought it was a misprint showing town had won.

Personal choice but I stay every game to applaud the players off the field - often by the time they do leave most of the fans have left or are well on their way.

Not blaming others - you takes your choice - but find it hard to understand personally. Perhaps that's just me though.

Can understand for those who leave early when they have a long journey ahead, had a long day, have young kids or are elderly etc... But that does not account for most who seem to want to get away at first opportunity.

Getting away from JSS is a lot easier than most stadiums in RL surely???

Wigan springs to mind - hence the WW I guess

Buses.

It's a 15-20 minute walk to the bus station for most people. Most buses leave in a 10 minute window around the hour. Most matches on a Sunday end about 10 to the hour. You are cutting it very fine to catch a bus if you wait for the match to end. Then you have the fact that most people are ignorant and can't form a queue and for most people it will be leave early or wait for another hour.

Evening matches are worse as the buses around 10 o'clock seem to be a little bit earlier and matches finish 5-10 minutes later. For a lot of people travelling by bus leaving after the match means not getting home until 20-30 minutes after 11. After sitting in the soul-crushing, dystopian nightmare that is Huddersfield bus station after 9pm for about an hour. There simply is no choice.

Often after matches on a Friday night I've walked the 4 miles home becasue I got there far quicker than I would by bus, but that isn't an option for some people. I find I am far more willing to stay to the end after buying a car than I ever was wehen I travelled by bus. Often a

Depends - I now park at gasworks, which is very easy to get out from & back towards the m'way, because the gestapo at the official stadium carpark insist on keeping cars back for at least 30 minutes (over an hour at the Hull/Wire semi!), presumably to wind them up so they'll speed and get a fine on the way home!

Salford, however still win the 'longest delay to get out the carpark' award

The other official car park doesn't keep anyone back- but you need to have a ticket for it. If it wasn't for the fact that those coming out of the stadium don't stick to pavements it wouldn't be necessary to keep the rest back to prevent an accident.

At the end of the day if people are putting their money into the club, it doesn't matter when they leave to me, though i don't understand it if it's a tight game that's in the balance, why would you go to a match just to miss the end outcome ?.

Each to their own though.

I live e in Leeds these days. If the game is as good as over (winning or losing) I will go 3 or 4 minutes early to avoid queing for the motorway with the away fans.

if its a close game I will stay. I'm up at 0540 in the morning for work so if we are coasting or getting hammered tonight I may just leave with a few minutes to go.

I don't apologise for that either. As mentioned on here it is each to their own, and it is nobodys right to slag anybody off on here or in person at the game. If somebody felt the need to moan at me as I was leaving they would be told where to go.

^ that

I've not left a game early before, but I can certainly see why people do - and not just because we are losing