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| Quote: brearley84 "Good win lastnight and great to do the double over saints!
No drum, just hands on seats !!
Was impressed with that how everyone joined in and it kept building back up too, thought the BR stand was pretty good last night - a lot more joining in than usual.
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| Quote: John_D "Saints look utterly clueless with ball in hand. That has to be a major concern. As such, Brough was the difference on the night. Invention, trickery, an intelligent kicking game - all the things Saints lacked.
It was a decent battle up front - I like the look of young Walmsley and I don't remember LMS taking a backward step - but thought Fartown edged that as well. It was Ukuma Ta'ai's best game in claret and gold by some distance, especially on defence. Brett Ferres is having a storming season and Wardle gets better every time I see him.
Hard work done in the first half, manage the scoreboard in the second. That seems to be the plan and it seems to be working.'"
did you not see taai at widnes and bradford then , was pretty much awesome in those two games too if not more so than lastnight for me.
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| Silverwood was very sympathetic to Saints last night. If anyone has the game recorded watch and listen to him, every set he was shouting to Giants players warning them (thereby slowing the line speed down, not a peep to Saints but did a couple of times have a word in the ear at breakdowns. Saints were very slow to clear the ruck often 4-5 seconds after calling the tackle complete, yet Robbo was pinged for holding on for what 1 second? If that was the standard Giants should have received another 20 penalties!!!!
Twice in the match he called zero tackle after Saints knocked on, only to not go back to the scrum, in the first half when Robbo kept it alive to Broughy whose offload to Grix was knocked on. Broughy queried that with Silverwood who then claimed his TJ said no saints knock on, " but you called zero tackle says Danny". second time late in the second half we forced a drop out, but a scrum on the Saints 10 is surely better.
I really do not think Silverwood should be allowed to Ref us after his behaviour saw him ejected from and then banned from the Stadium as a spectator.
As for the win, we did it in second gear, clearly put the cue on the rack early looking forward to Friday. If we were playing Sunday not Friday it would have been a similar score to first time we played them. Saints are a very ordinary side this year, and the Tinkerman looks familiarly confused.
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| Quote: keefie "Totally agree with JOHND, apart from LMS, he got flattened by Eorl in the first half and really didn't know what day it was, but when he came back on in the second half he proved what a quality player he is.
Looked to me as though he had a point to prove.
I don't know why, but most of the Refs were sat in the Free seats, Ganson, Ben Filtham, Uncle Albert and Sharpy, amongst others, perhaps that was why Silverwood was showing off in front of his mates, it may explain some of his decisions.
must of been 3 times he was right there to give the try or no try but he went to the video ref, used too much imo, he would of had to make a decision if it wasnt there! and he had the best view
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| Quote: brearley84 "the game should of been over by half time with the murphy try that got disallowed due to the supposed bad tackle form mullally when gardner fell over
It was the correct decision, Mullally made contact with Gardner's head and it was therefore a high tackle. Thought the officials were pretty good to be honest.
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| Quote: brearley84 "the game should of been over by half time with the murphy try that got disallowed due to the supposed bad tackle form mullally when gardner fell over
Silverwood had to give a penalty as contact had been made with the head. That's the top and bottom of it, and your player has not been charged with anything.
Meanwhile, unlike the claim above, Gardner has not been cleared to play. He is suffering from concussion and will be assessed over time.
Well done on your win. It's only taken you 60 years to do the double on us again but good things come to those who wait, yes?
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| The mullally/gardner incident was handled perfectly IMO. Glad it's no major damage to Ade as well. Nice to see both sets of fans stand to clap him all the way off too. Only in RL.
At the game I thought Silverwood let saint lay on a lot and loiter off side - and some if his holding penalties were hugely inconsistent. But he was probably equally bad
Our BIG problem was trying to score from every set when it went to 25-6, we tried to blow them away but without any patience or pressure and our errors let them back into the game
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| Quote: brearley84 "did you not see taai at widnes and bradford then , was pretty much awesome in those two games too if not more so than lastnight for me.'"
We only cover home games, so no
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| Still not convinced about Taai , 2 monster hits , but how many times did he lose the ball in the tackle ?Did he make a clean break ? Did he offload to put any one away ? At the end when the game was won , and Saints could be forgiven for not putting it all into the tackle , still couldn`t break through . Obviously he`s doing better than his first few games , but a way to go I fear
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| Quote: camraman "Still not convinced about Taai , 2 monster hits , but how many times did he lose the ball in the tackle ?Did he make a clean break ? Did he offload to put any one away ? At the end when the game was won , and Saints could be forgiven for not putting it all into the tackle , still couldn`t break through . Obviously he`s doing better than his first few games , but a way to go I fear'"
This weeks topics for Ta'ai:
1. Playing the ball (not using the ball to help you stand)
2. Passing the ball (when not to attempt a pass)
3. Carrying the ball (when to secure the ball)
Last weeks were:
1. How to tackle
2. How to run in attack
3. How to almost score a try
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| One thing that niggled me last night was Cudjoes choices with ball in hand. He elected to try to dummy Meli when he could have laid it off to Jerry who would have drawn in Wellens and kicked into mid field as we used to do. He then seemed to give JErry the ball when there was nowhere for him to go.
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| I've wondered if Jerry and Leroy have had a falling out !! **
In the past Leroy would put him away at the earliest opportunity, the last few weeks he hasn't given him the ball even when there has been a chance for a clear run for Jerry.
**= jokingly, i weren't actually suggesting they had !
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| Jerry has put the ball down in good opportunities in the past...and maybe Leroy thinks length of the field tries are easy against everyone as they are v Leeds lol
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Silverwood had to give a penalty as contact had been made with the head. That's the top and bottom of it, and your player has not been charged with anything.
Meanwhile, unlike the claim above, Gardner has not been cleared to play. He is suffering from concussion and will be assessed over time.
Well done on your win. It's only taken you 60 years to do the double on us again but good things come to those who wait, yes?
so what was mullally supposed to do in this situation when gardner was falling down going into the tackle?
wrong decision i think.
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| Quote: camraman "Still not convinced about Taai , 2 monster hits , but how many times did he lose the ball in the tackle ?Did he make a clean break ? Did he offload to put any one away ? At the end when the game was won , and Saints could be forgiven for not putting it all into the tackle , still couldn`t break through . Obviously he`s doing better than his first few games , but a way to go I fear'"
not convinced about taai on his last 3 games for us? been pretty much a standout performer.
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