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| Sad to say but i don't think Connor would have matured into the player he is now if he had stayed here. He was visibly out of shape here, and just going through the motions. He needed the move to another environment to kick on, as some players do. I am sad that the great talent he has become (and i think he will be an England half for many years) has been lost to us, but i really don't think we would have turned him into the player he is now at Hull. We will however, never know.
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| some of our youngsters might think they will improve for a different club too
we have signed most up though now
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| Quote Hangerman2="Hangerman2"Sad to say but i don't think Connor would have matured into the player he is now if he had stayed here. He was visibly out of shape here, and just going through the motions. He needed the move to another environment to kick on, as some players do. I am sad that the great talent he has become (and i think he will be an England half for many years) has been lost to us, but i really don't think we would have turned him into the player he is now at Hull. We will however, never know.'"
Perhaps not- it’s often horses for courses. Some players thrive more under certain coaches or at certain clubs than others.
Look at ferres- steady at Cas, brilliant for us, poor at Leeds.
Gale- mr ordinary most of his career, blossomed later in life at Cas,
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| Quote Hangerman2="Hangerman2"Sad to say but i don't think Connor would have matured into the player he is now if he had stayed here. He was visibly out of shape here, and just going through the motions. He needed the move to another environment to kick on, as some players do. I am sad that the great talent he has become (and i think he will be an England half for many years) has been lost to us, but i really don't think we would have turned him into the player he is now at Hull. We will however, never know.'"
I think any utility player or half back to some extent however talented is only as good as the players in the group that he is in.
At Hull he’s had to force his way into the team and compete with Kelly, Snead etc etc and this does tend to focus the mind when you are an ambitious young fella like Jake is/was. He will have been mentored by better players with a higher expectation of what they require from him which again will have improved his game and decision making.
He has ‘natural sass’ a definite requirement if you want to make it at the top level.
If we can take any consolation from this saga it is that we seem to have done a far better job of retaining our current young talent since this and maybe if we do sign Uate, Hastings and a couple of others working within this group with coaching from Woolford, Edwards, Thorman and Robinson means that this type of environment will exist at the Giants and our current talent will thrive like Jake has done at Hull as I don’t think he would have done under Anderson or Stone.
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| Quote Durham Giant="Durham Giant"Cough kopczak and Mason cough.
The reality is our CEO thought he could get away with it because he thought we were entitled to compensation.
The reality is we were not and whoever was dealing with it at Hull FC was more savvy and clever than ours.'"
Kopczak and Mason cough cough, It were all a conspiracy a tell thee
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| Quote jools="jools"We were entitled to compensation.
FC weren’t more savvy - they were more immoral.
If connors birthday has been in, say, March they wouldn’t have been able to do what they did to cheat us out of development money.
But then we know their chairman is a rat.'"
AP a rat?
I've sent him a link to your comment.
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| Quote jools="jools"We were entitled to compensation.
FC weren’t more savvy - they were more immoral.
If connors birthday has been in, say, March they wouldn’t have been able to do what they did to cheat us out of development money.
But then we know their chairman is a rat.'"
Just so you know Jools, your posts at times are usually blinkered, and naive at best, your missive above is obtuse and clumsy, and to be honest downright personal, shame on you, you disgrace the good name of Huddersfield supporters.
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| Quote Leigh_Manning="Leigh_Manning"AP a rat?
I've sent him a link to your comment.'"
Bless. Just think if he’d have had his way with Ken Davy he’d be in charge of a premier league football team now.
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| Quote jools="jools":lol:
Bless. Just think if he’d have had his way with Ken Davy he’d be in charge of a premier league football team now.'"
you are an embarrassment to your fellow Huddersfield fans. Good job you're in the minority.
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| No. I’m not watching Mr Thewlis.
Why? Should I be?
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| I see jools hasn't backed up her Rat comment, typical kbw
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| Quote Leigh_Manning="Leigh_Manning"AP a rat?
I've sent him a link to your comment.'"
Oh come on, Jools might be a bit one eyed but if you really have then that's pretty sad.
I dont know all the ins and outs of the deal that saw Connor come to us, but by all accounts Hull weren't entitled to pay compensation. You can say that they were immoral or that they played the system if you want, but ateotd what club is going to pay out if they can avoid it? I am absolutely certain that Huddersfield will have done something similar in the past.
As for Connor himself. My understanding is that the deal was signed and then he started having second thoughts. Whether this was something to do with Stone, or whether it was the prospect of leaving his mates behind at Huddersfield or whatever, I'm not sure. Hull stuck to their guns and said we aren't releasing him, if you want to keep him you will have to pay. In hindsight, Thewlis should have swallowed his pride and got his cheque book out, but it was a difficult position for him to be in.
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