9s can be small so Robbo is not unique in that.

Have you taken a close look at Bruno?!

similar in size to players like Fergy with us and Westwood/ O'Loughlin / Hansen elsewhere

Easily bigger than wigan back rowers like Tuson and farrell and our own Gilly.

Maybe one of the drawbacks of the licencing system...You lot cost me a few quid, did,nt see that one coming.

not having a dig at any of the 3 i mentioned but when they are on field at same time we do look very lightweight, bruno maybe a big centre but to me he isnt a big 2nd rower, great defender will say that but when he has ball makes little headway against most packs. I agree hookers dont need to be big and robbo does a great job.

missing griffin in the pack? think so.

Bruno is as big as most back rowers and bigger than many others. In the pack he is consistently one of our best defenders.

i said at the start grix is not a 6 and will never be one thats as simple as that. as for brown not being good enough for 6 and movedto 13 because of it, thats aload of rubbish. Nathan brown wanted an extra ball handler on the field as he thought it would give our attack a boost. brown and brough at 6 n 7 destroyed teams last season untill they both picked up injurys.

i never thought having brown at 13 would work n it probs hasnt, but we deffo need someone to help brough as much as he tries he cant do it by him self.

nathan brown has made some strange decisions recently like chan being in the centres against wigan, another point playing near enough a first team in cup games we didnt need to specially swinton which i may add LOD got injured. not point having a big squad if ur not gonna use it.

dont think its a panic thing yet but deffo needs sorting out

agree with this...

Why are you all panicing? We lost to catalan in france which most teams will.

We lost to wigan and when wigan are playing like they are they will beat anyone

Yes bad game at weekend losing to salford but its one game.

No need to press the panic button just yet. Brown at 13 worked at beginning of season but now we lose a few games it doesnt work.

Most sensible thing posted on here all week.

We haven't lost 3 matches because of players "playing out of position" because they aren't, they are playing in positions they have either trained to play in or have played in in the past.

Nor have we lost matches because we lack a "big mean prop" whatever one of those is.

Nor have we lost because NB has no plan B, a meaningless soundbite if I ever heard one.

We have lost them because earlier in the season the players were sticking to the game plan, getting to the right areas of the pitch and reacting positively to negativity. Recently too many of our players have dropped back into their old habits of looking for excuses to lose. The ref, other players, NB leaving etc. Passes are being forced or snatched at so they are going to ground. Players are trying to make the individual play too much which results in our shape being lost in defence. They only way to stop it is for the players to find their mojo again but shuffling them around isn't going to help, nor will randomly dropping players.

Only wire have managed to beat Catalan on their own soil. And Wigan are by far the best side in SL.
We have been undone by kr and Salford- both those teams beat us because they threw the ball about and offloaded at every opportunity-our defensive strategy is fixated on slowing the ptb and we weren't able to adapt.

Excellent post. Well said.

As Kev said in the Examiner, a good team doesn't become a bad one overnight.

Let's have our dip in form now, not at the season's end like us & Wire last year.

The trouble is, even when winning, the Giants haven't looked particularly convincing, so it's not a case of suddenly becoming bad, but more of a case of not being that good in the first place and certainly not improving.