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Quote: jools "5 half back pairings, 5 fullbacks, (6 after today) 3 players playing 3 positions, 3 players playing in 2 positions.
A 20 year old having played fullback, 6,7 and centre. Debuts galore.
That's not counting the in game changes when people have gone off injured.

And just TWO players playing in their same position all year.


But it's the coaches fault......'"


That is an argument I agree, but does it account for the dross that we watched for much of last year. We are sadly short of basic skills jools

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pressure is mounting but ken davy never makes rash decisions and doesnt often sack coaches so those wanting anderson to be sacked will have a good wait

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Quote: jools "5 half back pairings, 5 fullbacks, (6 after today) 3 players playing 3 positions, 3 players playing in 2 positions.
A 20 year old having played fullback, 6,7 and centre. Debuts galore.
That's not counting the in game changes when people have gone off injured.

And just TWO players playing in their same position all year.


But it's the coaches fault......'"


Yup the coach who is moving players round left right and centre, dropping players who have played well with no explanations.

Yet again he doesnt fail to deliver, we sign Brierley a halfback for last 4 years and he's played twice for us, both times in different positions, today fullback where he has never played before, he drops a young kid who should be our main fullback by now with 40 odd games under his belt had Anderson not dropped him on the back of 3 very very good performances to accomodate one of our recognised names, so yup sorry dont agree with your play em they are a well known name strategy but I do blame the coach, the same one who has brought these problems on himself by dropping players who were performing!!!! Today was absolute garbage against a team losing their last 4 of 5 games following on from Catalan and Wakefield which were also garbage, If we were due to play Bradford, Leigh, Halifax, Batley or London next week to survive I would be very very worried. We dont look like a team end of

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Quote: FLYINGPROP "Yup the coach who is moving players round left right and centre, dropping players who have played well with no explanations.

Yet again he doesnt fail to deliver, we sign Brierley a halfback for last 4 years and he's played twice for us, both times in different positions, today fullback where he has never played before, he drops a young kid who should be our main fullback by now with 40 odd games under his belt had Anderson not dropped him on the back of 3 very very good performances to accomodate one of our recognised names, so yup sorry dont agree with your play em they are a well known name strategy but I do blame the coach, the same one who has brought these problems on himself by dropping players who were performing!!!! Today was absolute garbage against a team losing their last 4 of 5 games following on from Catalan and Wakefield which were also garbage, If we were due to play Bradford, Leigh, Halifax, Batley or London next week to survive I would be very very worried. We dont look like a team end of'"


Who has he dropped who has played better? He's moving players because we've started the season with two experienced players down unexpectedly and a plethora of injuries!

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Quote: Jo Jumbuck "So basically what you post comes under the " everyone has the right to their opinion category " What I post comes under the " what you are quite happy to call negative rubbish" Yet I am the one splitting the fan base.
Has it never occurred to you meast that other people might be just as fed up of hearing , all the maybe's and endless excuses that you trot out on here. Have I ever called any of your posts fanciful over optimistic rubbish, No I have often questioned your opinions, and for answers I get Maybe this ,Maybe that
As usual because I don't agree with you , I am constantly moaning, I think I am being realistic, but as far as you are concerned Its negative rubbish. and I get the " if you don't want to support us don't stuff" What comes next ? why do you come on the Forum, you aren't being forced.
For your information I have contacted the club on occasions , they haven't bothered to respond.

The weather could be worse, all the others I agree with.'"



Have you considered joining the Supporters association ? we have regular meetings with the club and they do listen and take on board what the fans are saying, we like to think we are a sounding board for the fans and if you have any ideas/thoughts etc you would be most welcome to join us in getting them through if you want the club to listen and respond etc.

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Quote: jools "Who has he dropped who has played better? He's moving players because we've started the season with two experienced players down unexpectedly and a plethora of injuries!'"


Experienced players or players who will give 110% for the club, know which i prefer

How far back do you want to go? Dropped Leeming and Connor in cup last year to bring Robbo and Ferres back in after injury, that ended well didnt it!!!! Did same to bring Ferres back vs Widnes away, again went well!!

Dropped Simpson last season after 3 great games to bring Grix back after injury, then trows Simpson in against Wakey when we under massive pressure, he had a mare but did we stick with him, did we bollox, if his confidence wasn't shot before it will be now.

Dropped Sam Wood after Wigan game (one of our better players on the day) to bring yet another star back into the side.

Does he learn does he knackers

Will eventually realise games aren't won on paper by having star names listed. We are bottom of league and deservedly so, only 1 man is responsible for moving players round every position trying to fit square pegs in round holes. Brierley is a 7 play him there, Simpson is a fullback play him there, Sam Wood is a centre play him there, Eorls game is to offload with 3 men tackling him, Huby's game is to offload, allow em to do it ffs not rocket science is it?

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I don't buy the injury situation as an excuse. We started the season 4 senior players down (5 after ferres) on the year before, we were obviously light... unless Anderson is not involved in recruitment, then he's failed to forsee what we all could.

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Anderson made a big deal of starting the season with a small squad but has overlooked the fact that should injury occur then he'd have to bring the youngsters in who are Not ready.....

Fail to prepare, prepare to fail.

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Quote: FLYINGPROP "Experienced players or players who will give 110% for the club, know which i prefer

How far back do you want to go? Dropped Leeming and Connor in cup last year to bring Robbo and Ferres back in after injury, that ended well didnt it!!!! Did same to bring Ferres back vs Widnes away, again went well!!

Dropped Simpson last season after 3 great games to bring Grix back after injury, then trows Simpson in against Wakey when we under massive pressure, he had a mare but did we stick with him, did we bollox, if his confidence wasn't shot before it will be now.

Dropped Sam Wood after Wigan game (one of our better players on the day) to bring yet another star back into the side.

Does he learn does he knackers

Will eventually realise games aren't won on paper by having star names listed. We are bottom of league and deservedly so, only 1 man is responsible for moving players round every position trying to fit square pegs in round holes. Brierley is a 7 play him there, Simpson is a fullback play him there, Sam Wood is a centre play him there, Eorls game is to offload with 3 men tackling him, Huby's game is to offload, allow em to do it ffs not rocket science is it?'"


So Sam wood and Simpson. So you would drop one youngster (comnor) for another (wood) and Simpson needed dropping after those shocking schoolboy errors! he needs to drop Murphy too on this years showing. dont play brierley at 7 - play him where he's been brought in to play at 1. He did a better job than Simpson! Never mind - grix will be back soon that will please you! Or hang on are you advocating changing the team around agai. For next week.......

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Quote: jools "So Sam wood and Simpson. So you would drop one youngster (comnor) for another (wood) and Simpson needed dropping after those shocking schoolboy errors! he needs to drop Murphy too on this years showing. dont play brierley at 7 - play him where he's been brought in to play at 1. He did a better job than Simpson! Never mind - grix will be back soon that will please you! Or hang on are you advocating changing the team around agai. For next week.......'"


See what you want to see as you always do Jools.

Brought in Brierley, played scrum half for 4 years scoring bucket loads of points but he's gonna play fullback for us.

Novel idea maybe we should sign Billy Slater to play prop or Gallen for the wing? Makes sense

Maybe in your world Anderson is above criticism cos we are 8/8 wins playing champagne rugby and sitting pretty at top of the league.

In the real world we have 2 points from 16 gained vs a very very poor Hull KR team.

Lost against Wakefield, Salford, Widnes, Catalans, Wigan, Leeds and St Helens

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There's a lot of talk about players and positions and yes I agree we came in to the season too thin and it's cost us ,BUT I don't just think that's the whole problem, we have plenty enough Talent to compete , we just don't seem to have a game plan , the opposition seem to have us worked out , our old tricks just aren't doing it any more , time to come up with new plays and play to players strenghts . American football is all about plays and I know there 2 different games but I can't help feal we could take a leaf out of there book some times rather than the trundle up the middle hope for the best game we watch some times.

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Quote: FLYINGPROP "See what you want to see as you always do Jools.

Brought in Brierley, played scrum half for 4 years scoring bucket loads of points but he's gonna play fullback for us.

Novel idea maybe we should sign Billy Slater to play prop or Gallen for the wing? Makes sense

Maybe in your world Anderson is above criticism cos we are 8/8 wins playing champagne rugby and sitting pretty at top of the league.

In the real world we have 2 points from 16 gained vs a very very poor Hull KR team.

Lost against Wakefield, Salford, Widnes, Catalans, Wigan, Leeds and St Helens'"


icon_thumb.gif Thanks for that flying wasn't aware we have two points. Wasn't aware those games I attended we'd lost but cheers!

Why shouldn't brierley play at FB- many Leigh fans think it would suit his game. Tomkins was a half too, oh and wasn't lomax?
Lawrence started as a winger, (then centre, then second row)so did kirmond, Leroy as a half back, Connor was a half back then full back now centre, Wardle moved into second row........

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Quote: jools "

One minute you blaming us moving players from position to position for the pickle we are in next you are saying thats what we should be doing? Make your mind up.

You might not like the criticism been leveled at Anderson but thats where the buck stops, we have no idea with ball in hand, no line speed or aggression in attack, no passion, pride or will to tough it out to get the win.

You may accept 2nd best but that imo is unacceptable when wearing C&G

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Yes I'm saying having an unsettled team has affected our season.
I'm also saying Brierleys place in our team isn't necessarily the position he's always played. Please think before you try and put words in my mouth.
If this team isn't acceptable then moaning about it doesn't help- getting behind the team might- but it seems you aren't willing to put the effort in to the team you seem to believe the players need to. Talk about double standards.

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Most leythers have always thought of Ryan more as a FB than a half , again all depends on who you have available for each position , and how long you have to integrate them

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