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surprised some think matago had a good game icon_eek.gif

he did an 18min stint first half.... taai came on and changed the game for us

matagi came back on second half and gave away two penalties and was subbed soone after... how is that a good game?

and im sorry but we lose the ruck and collision in tackles far too often and it puts us under pressure, we need some size.... ikahihifo could help on that front but hes frozen out.

when you think how much of our salary cap is not playing it makes you wonder something has gone wrong....... uate / frawley / ikahihifo / cudjoe.... got to be 4 of our biggest earners... imagine any other team having the size of that out of their team.... and 3 of them can actually play right now!

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Quote: GIANTSRL "surprised some think matago had a good game
So are you suggesting Matagi is dropped for seb d040.gif

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Quote: jools "So are you suggesting Matagi is dropped for seb
well thats not going to happen is it

an in form seb id pick over most sl props in the league... shame woolford froze him out as he wants that cap space to bring someone else in.

a matagi one good game in every 7 or a seb 1 good game every 3?

have them both in the team if you like i dont mind..

matagi needs to be more consistent for me.

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Quote: GIANTSRL "well thats not going to happen is it

an in form seb id pick over most sl props in the league... shame woolford froze him out as he wants that cap space to bring someone else in.

a matagi one good game in every 7 or a seb 1 good game every 3?

have them both in the team if you like i dont mind..

matagi needs to be more consistent for me.'"


Seb didn’t have one good game in a season - if we are comparing what he showed he was capable of in 2017. He’s not been in form has he.

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Not a fan of either Seb or Matagi. Seb was dire the whole of 2018, a fraction of the player he wasn't in 2017.

Matagi, like Brearley says has 1 good game every now and again, not adequate for me.

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seb was ok in 2018...no worse than the rest, he had a few injury problems

for me we should have tried to get him back to the 2017 form, we know what he can do, but woolford went the wrong way about it and i thought it might end up how it had, what a waste

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Quote: GIANTSRL "seb was ok in 2018...no worse than the rest, he had a few injury problems

for me we should have tried to get him back to the 2017 form, we know what he can do, but woolford went the wrong way about it and i thought it might end up how it had, what a waste'"


Woolford wanted to see him step up- he’s failed to do that- disappointing.
One thing woolford has banged on about since he arrived is resilience- has seb shown any resilience?

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6-0 up we are in possession and instead of driving the ball upfield we go sideways force a pass and bingo 6-6

Murphy Stops the play the ball why?... bingo 10 minutes in the bin but on the one occasion we tried to take a quick one play is stopped ref out of position. Wakey do the same ref out of position play on ... consistency NO !!

Almost half time we give it to Mellor !!!! to kick bingo straight out ball back and right on half time try 16-10 ‘farcical’ We had chance to get the fullback before the pass but no..... we just look at him watch him run across the line and pass and try...

Then the Woolford team talk and we turn up after half time and get dominated and bullied... Give away another stupid try (Leroy) and again look as if we don't know each other.

If we can’t motivate with jobs on the line then we deserve everything we get !!!

Our line speed and drive 2nd half was so slow hadwe been the Titanic we would have missed the iceberg..

Where does it go from here ??

Having watched the highlights it looks even worse

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Quote: fartown since 1961 "6-0 up we are in possession and instead of driving the ball upfield we go sideways force a pass and bingo 6-6

Murphy has to open his mouth to the ref... bingo 10 minutes in the bin

Almost half time we give it to Mellor !!!! to kick bingo straight out ball back and right on half time try 16-10 ‘farcical’ We had chance to get the fullback before the pass but no..... we just look at him watch him run across the line and pass and try...

Then the Woolford team talk and we turn up after half time and get dominated and bullied... Give away another stupid try (Leroy) and again look as if we don't know each other.

If we can’t motivate with jobs on the line then we deserve everything we get !!!

Our line speed and drive 2nd half was so slow hadwe been the Titanic we would have missed the iceberg..

Where does it go from here ??'"

Agree with everything apart from Murphy got done for stopping them taking a quick tap yet their guy kicks the ball away near the end after he penalises them yet no son binning, no consistency from the ref apart from being one-eyed, not blaming him for one minute, but I'm sick of watching poor officials. They were there for the taking and as you muted the score after our first try and the one before half time were the game changes. Onwards and upwards to Salford

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Quote: willo109 "Agree with everything apart from Murphy got done for stopping them taking a quick tap yet their guy kicks the ball away near the end after he penalises them yet no son binning, no consistency from the ref apart from being one-eyed, not blaming him for one minute, but I'm sick of watching mickey poor officials. They were there for the taking and as you muted the score after our first try and the one before half time were the game changes. Onwards and upwards to Salford'"

Preventing a quick tap is a sin binning. Kicking the ball away after being pulled for offside(which he wasn't) isn't. Maybe you need to brush up on the rules.

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Quote: willo109 "Agree with everything apart from Murphy got done for stopping them taking a quick tap yet their guy kicks the ball away near the end after he penalises them yet no son binning, no consistency from the ref apart from being one-eyed, not blaming him for one minute, but I'm sick of watching mickey poor officials. They were there for the taking and as you muted the score after our first try and the one before half time were the game changes. Onwards and upwards to Salford'"


The rule is different the ball is dead and Murphy prevented time for a quick tap. Oh you didn't mention the Huddersfield player who had a paddy and threw the ball away after knocking on. We have had players binned for that not seen any other team suffer a binning as yet!

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Since when is dropping on a loose ball a penalty? We knock on, another man in front of him drops on the loose ball - see that all the time but no this ref gives a penalty for the man dropping on the ball being offside- First offences is the knock on so scrum down!

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Quote: jools "Since when is dropping on a loose ball a penalty? We knock on, another man in front of him drops on the loose ball - see that all the time but no this ref gives a penalty for the man dropping on the ball being offside- First offences is the knock on so scrum down!'"
wow you really don't know the rules of the game at all do you, I'll try explain this simply.
firstly it doesn't happen all the time, if you seen it done then the ref is at fault

your player has knocked which would lead to a scrum if he'd picked it up but it wasn't, it was then shudds player stood in front of him in an offside position which you admit to this, this then stops the play, had it been a Wakey player picking the ball up and not made any yardage a scrum would of been given, had the said player gained yardage play would of continued and advantage given. first offence is when both team players knock on on the same play

by the way thanks for the points this season c020.gif c020.gif c020.gif

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must have been about 9-2 pen counts in wildcats favour at one point...

wont want to see that ref again anytime soon

we are the most penalised team in the league though

but that has been going on for years and years

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Quote: snowie "wow you really don't know the rules of the game at all do you, I'll try explain this simply.
firstly it doesn't happen all the time, if you seen it done then the ref is at fault

your player has knocked which would lead to a scrum if he'd picked it up but it wasn't, it was then shudds player stood in front of him in an offside position which you admit to this, this then stops the play, had it been a Wakey player picking the ball up and not made any yardage a scrum would of been given, had the said player gained yardage play would of continued and advantage given. first offence is when both team players knock on on the same play

by the way thanks for the points this season
Yeah those points we’ve given You have kept you from relegation. You should be grateful.

The first offence is the knock on, seen plenty of offside players prevent the opposition picking up the ball, and it’s never been given as a penalty. Ever.

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