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| the players are just as quiet on social media too, total closed shop from the club
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| What do you expect Ken to say really? Why would you expect him to make a statement after another loss?
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| Ken will be as upset and dismayed as the rest of us.
Ken has to take some responsibility too however. He left Thewlis in a job because he is a family friend. And he also left Anderson in the job for way too long.
Not having ago I may point out. Rightly Ken is a legend of this club.
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| Quote: Andrew J "Ken will be as upset and dismayed as the rest of us.
Ken has to take some responsibility too however. He left Thewlis in a job because he is a family friend. And he also left Anderson in the job for way too long.
Not having ago I may point out. Rightly Ken is a legend of this club.'"
Ken is a legend, but that doesn't mean he can't make mistakes...
Also, regarding the silence. It could well be a tactical silence, I would prefer matter to be dealt with privately within the organisation. As long matters are being dealt with. Because it's obvious things need changing.
All the years of poor management have come and bit us on our . A quote from a player not me, and that was a quarter of the way into the season. So the players know that there ia problems at the club.
A lot of people are blaming the players, but you can't expect them to perform at their peak if the management is not at the same level as their required Performance. Just like with any job. A lot of the blame has to be put on the management of the club, which Ken Davy is responsible for..
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| Nothing from Ken but Cudjoe has surfaced to apologise for the no show by Giants defence last Sunday , usual waffle that were all tired of hearing , If Connors is picked for this Sundays game then our family are not going , if we dont it will be the first game in years that we have missed but were not prepared to waste our time watching rubbish like that , yes our family are Grixie fans and while hes far from perfect he is a far better full back than Connors
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| Quote: Chetnik "Ken is a legend, but that doesn't mean he can't make mistakes...
Also, regarding the silence. It could well be a tactical silence, I would prefer matter to be dealt with privately within the organisation. As long matters are being dealt with. Because it's obvious things need changing.
All the years of poor management have come and bit us on our booty. A quote from a player not me, and that was a quarter of the way into the season. So the players know that there ia problems at the club.
A lot of people are blaming the players, but you can't expect them to perform at their peak if the management is not at the same level as their required Performance. Just like with any job. A lot of the blame has to be put on the management of the club, which Ken Davy is responsible for..'"
I agree that there's not much to be gained by putting things out in public. Not quite sure I agree with poor management affecting what happens on the field though. I've worked for some really sh.. managers in my time, but it hasn't stopped me doing my job to the best of my ability. It's been said time and again- the coach the managers and the directors don't miss tackles, drop balls or kick out on the full.
Rudyard Kipling has it spot on with IF. Right now the players aren't being men.
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| silence just leads to rumours and the fans guessing about whats going on
hull kr and salford have come out and said things so the fans are informed but its just a closed shop at the giants and dont engage with the fans
thewlis has to go, the management has been shocking and they have been caught out now, going into this season with such a small squad was criminal
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| Quote: jools "I agree that there's not much to be gained by putting things out in public. Not quite sure I agree with poor management affecting what happens on the field though. I've worked for some really sh.. managers in my time, but it hasn't stopped me doing my job to the best of my ability. It's been said time and again- the coach the managers and the directors don't miss tackles, drop balls or kick out on the full.
Rudyard Kipling has it spot on with IF. Right now the players aren't being men.'"
So you're saying poor management can't knock the confidence of the players, which will then have a negative effect on the field?
You may react differently to shi* managers than other people, everyone is different.
Also, let's not forget there are other factors such as Robinson, Ferres, Injuries, Anderson. Everything sort of went wrong at once.
I would also hugely question the recruitment or lack of it over the last few years too...
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| Quote: Chetnik "So you're saying poor management can't knock the confidence of the players, which will then have a negative effect on the field?
You may react differently to shi* managers than other people, everyone is different.
Also, let's not forget there are other factors such as Robinson, Ferres, Injuries, Anderson. Everything sort of went wrong at once.
I would also hugely question the recruitment or lack of it over the last few years too...'"
I agree we've had a lot go wrong- and recruitment has been poor. But none of that turns good players into bad ones overnight. We have a lack of leaders at the club- and that has manifested itself in a poor reaction by the players to those things that have gone wrong. The management are at fault for SOME of WHAT has gone wrong yes but the players are at fault for the poor way THEY have handled them. Some of them need to grow some whatits and show determination to fight. (Metaphorically speaking) for the club.
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| Quote: jools "I agree we've had a lot go wrong- and recruitment has been poor. But none of that turns good players into bad ones overnight. We have a lack of leaders at the club- and that has manifested itself in a poor reaction by the players to those things that have gone wrong. The management are at fault for SOME of WHAT has gone wrong yes but the players are at fault for the poor way THEY have handled them. Some of them need to grow some whatits and show determination to fight. (Metaphorically speaking) for the club.'"
Valid points that I can't disagree with. No matter what has happened off the field, once they step onto that field the responsibility IS in their hands.
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| Quote: manwinoname "Nothing from Ken but Cudjoe has surfaced to apologise for the no show by Giants defence last Sunday , usual waffle that were all tired of hearing , If Connors is picked for this Sundays game then our family are not going , if we dont it will be the first game in years that we have missed but were not prepared to waste our time watching rubbish like that , yes our family are Grixie fans and while hes far from perfect he is a far better full back than Connors'"
So you wont go and support the TEAM in an important game that could decide our future because you don't agree with ONE player being picked?
You're entitled to your opinion and whatever your beef is with Connor, only one of him, surely the idea is you support the TEAM?
Seems a bit strange to complain about the performances and excuses etc then withdraw your support because of ONE player, but each to their own.
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| Quote: brearley84 "silence just leads to rumours and the fans guessing about whats going on
hull kr and salford have come out and said things so the fans are informed but its just a closed shop at the giants and dont engage with the fans
thewlis has to go, the management has been shocking and they have been caught out now, going into this season with such a small squad was criminal'"
I kind of know where you're coming from, bit again, what would you expect ken to say exactly? Don't forget the owners of Salford and Hull KR are loudmouth egotistical maniacs compared to Ken.
All he could say would be, we've been poor, we sacked the coach that people wanted sacking as he was the reason we were in the poo to begin with , according to the fans who are in the know, but we haven't improved, and i can't bring a guy from the other side of the world then sack him, so the blame is with the CEO?
Yes RT has made errors, yes he might not be everyone's cup of tea but what happens on the field is the players responsibility nobody else, whatever happens at board level or at management level with the coaching staff, ultimately the players have let themselves, the fans, the coaches , the directors and Ken down, no one else but the players.
Yes, we're all frustrated but hearing or reading a speech from Ken isn't going to change anything, there are 17 people in the club who can determine it's immediate future and guess who they are?
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| suppose could always buy the match programme to get something out of ken davy
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| Can't believe people on here criticise Ken Davy. You should all get on your knees to him every match.
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| Sir Ken knows what the Huddersfield fans think about him,we made that very clear when he arrived at Leigh.
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