FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Huddersfield Giants > Woolford, the squad and the future
37 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Code13 , Durham Giant
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1104No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 20169 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2021Jun 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Im not saying Wooford is or he isnt the man for the job but im seriously starting to question him now. Since the Wakefield defeat at the end of last season we have lost 21 and won 7. Our 7 wins include 2 wins at home to Hull KR and 2 wins against London.

He has made 3 appalling signings in Matagi, Uate and Frawley which he has to take responsibility for. The latter who is apparently home sick, so let him go.

Can he motivate the team? its beginning to sound like he cant. How much of last year was down to Thorman? Why do we struggle more than others team when we get a few injuries?

As it stands, we need to get rid of Ferguson (injury prone), Roberts (new deal syndrome), Ikahihifo (new deal syndrome), Frawley (not good enough), Matagi, Uate and think about replacing Murphy and Clough too who I think have had their time now and should be squad players at best. With the exception of Joe Wardle and Taai, our forwards are currently the worst in SL by some way. No go forward in any of them, simply get rolled by every team.

Was Woolford relying on making our metres from Jerry & Uate while having a more mobile set of forwards?

What do we need most for next season? 2 big props and a 2nd rower for me. Our lack of size every week is becoming more and more evident

Why do some of our senior players only look steady when playing with better players like Jerry & Joe Wardle? why is it when they play with some the youngsters they suddenly look like championship players? other clubs dont have this problem.

Our youngsters are certainly the only good thing about the club at the moment. I hope we don't lose them over the next few years because we cant progress.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1331No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2021May 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: GiantJake1988 "Im not saying Wooford is or he isnt the man for the job but im seriously starting to question him now. Since the Wakefield defeat at the end of last season we have lost 21 and won 7. Our 7 wins include 2 wins at home to Hull KR and 2 wins against London.

He has made 3 appalling signings in Matagi, Uate and Frawley which he has to take responsibility for. The latter who is apparently home sick, so let him go.

Can he motivate the team? its beginning to sound like he cant. How much of last year was down to Thorman? Why do we struggle more than others team when we get a few injuries?

As it stands, we need to get rid of Ferguson (injury prone), Roberts (new deal syndrome), Ikahihifo (new deal syndrome), Frawley (not good enough), Matagi, Uate and think about replacing Murphy and Clough too who I think have had their time now and should be squad players at best. With the exception of Joe Wardle and Taai, our forwards are currently the worst in SL by some way. No go forward in any of them, simply get rolled by every team.

Was Woolford relying on making our metres from Jerry & Uate while having a more mobile set of forwards?

What do we need most for next season? 2 big props and a 2nd rower for me. Our lack of size every week is becoming more and more evident.'"


Oliver Roberts is no more than a championship player since his new deal, last night he was invisible.

Ikahihifo we messed him about so much took his number off him, would you be bothered ?

Ferguson should have played.

Frawley should be allowed to go home.

Uate and Matagi are a waste of space and cap.

I disagree about Clough he was one of the few who appears to care about what he is doing and puts in 100%.

IF Cudjoe is fit and choosing not to play then he should be offered an alternative of play, retire or find a new club.

If he’s finished or not fit Woolford should tell the truth.

McKntosh seemed to have a ‘take his bat and ball home’ / disinterested attitude for much of the later parts of the match new deal syndrome again ??

We got hammered by one of the worst Wigan teams I have seen last night no excuses are acceptable.

Woolford ? He’s beginning to look no where near a superleague coach, now there’s relegation it’s a big call stick or twist ??

RankPostsTeam
International Star613
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 201311 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



I agree his signings have been dire. However, i have been happy with his tactical decisions and analysis so far. Let's see how the next few games go to judge him, previous coaches have never been able to turn around a short losing streak without it becoming a massive one, our form always seems to go LLLLLLLLWWWWWWLLLLLLLLL, if he can get us a couple of wins against the teams we are to play in the next few rounds and get players heads up he will do for me. We are a poor side, and most of that is not down to Woolford but due to shocking player recruitment over the last few years, he has contributed with Uate and Frawley (i actually like Matagi, and think he would look much better in a stronger pack, he DOES have go forward)

RankPostsTeam
International Star10464
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2023Dec 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
60098_1402496159.jpg
the future's bright the future's [color=#800000:1p3f9jf7]claret [/color:1p3f9jf7] and [color=#FFFF40:1p3f9jf7]gold [/color:1p3f9jf7]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_60098.jpg



The fault is that of the players. Our line speed is non-existent- and that’s down to lack of galvanised effort.
There are some who put in the effort- English, Darnell, twins, gaskell - but if the rest aren’t with them then they can’t go shooting out of the line by themselves.
I thought frawley did well last night in controlling things with his kicking- but what struck me was in attack we were passing back down the line and catching the ball stood still! It was like they were on the training ground not an (important) match.
Matagi as well I think could be a good player- but he’s the only one with any size and he can’t carry the pack alone.
Sebastine has gone down massively in my estimations- not just as a player but as a character- yes it looks like he’s been messed about, but if he had any thing about him he’d be doing his best to prove the coaches wrong and put himself in the shop window, not sure I want the kind of attitude he’s displayed to hang around-he’s proving woolford correct. Roberts has been a massive disappointment. Once his deal is finished I can see him going to championship. We might get a good season out of him in his final year- be interesting to see.
Final thought- Wish we had thorman back. He’s a good man manager and the kind of guy that can get the best out of people.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1104No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 20169 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2021Jun 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: jools "The fault is that of the players. Our line speed is non-existent- and that’s down to lack of galvanised effort.
There are some who put in the effort- English, Darnell, twins, gaskell - but if the rest aren’t with them then they can’t go shooting out of the line by themselves.
I thought frawley did well last night in controlling things with his kicking- but what struck me was in attack we were passing back down the line and catching the ball stood still! It was like they were on the training ground not an (important) match.
Matagi as well I think could be a good player- but he’s the only one with any size and he can’t carry the pack alone.
Sebastine has gone down massively in my estimations- not just as a player but as a character- yes it looks like he’s been messed about, but if he had any thing about him he’d be doing his best to prove the coaches wrong and put himself in the shop window, not sure I want the kind of attitude he’s displayed to hang around-he’s proving woolford correct. Roberts has been a massive disappointment. Once his deal is finished I can see him going to championship. We might get a good season out of him in his final year- be interesting to see.
Final thought- Wish we had thorman back. He’s a good man manager and the kind of guy that can get the best out of people.'"


Taai has size, not Matagi.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15511
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2020Sep 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
43854_1545310668.jpg
HUDDERSFIELD - THE BIRTHPLACE OF RUGBY LEAGUE:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_43854.jpg



uate - may be a different player to what we saw after his op so wait and see on that one.

think people know my thoughts on roberts, matagi and frawley by now.

ikahihifo - woolford ruined him, certainly knows how to get the best out of a player by wanting rid, dont blame seb way he has been treated.

ferguson has a problem with his knee so couldnt play icon_rolleyes.gif

mcintosh ---- suddenly looking like the 'new deal syndrome'

thewlis - time he went, should have gone a long time ago, another just happy to take the wage, whole culture stinks at the club and starts with him

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1104No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 20169 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2021Jun 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: GIANTSRL "uate - may be a different player to what we saw after his op so wait and see on that one.

think people know my thoughts on roberts, matagi and frawley by now.

ikahihifo - woolford ruined him, certainly knows how to get the best out of a player by wanting rid, dont blame seb way he has been treated.

ferguson has a problem with his knee so couldnt play
How long until Uate is back? no mention of him at all anymore

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain410
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 20168 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

Homme Vaste wrote:[quote:36bif8w3]I think every Hudds fan on here will agree when I say they brought way more than 250 fans to Belle Vue on there visits this season, probably closer to 1000[/quote:36bif8w3]:



Ok naming who we want gone but who do we replace them with? if we couldnt get quality players in what makes anyone think we an replace our average ones with better?

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain195No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 20187 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2020Feb 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



The only problem our squad has is there not playing regularly with each other it’s a different squad every week , I thought frawley was actually decent last night , Matagi runs hard and has a decent game maybe 1/5 and uate maybe be a different player after his op we just gotta wait and find out also believe we were putting a lot of pressure on young kids who arnt really ready for it

RankPostsTeam
International Star110No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 201410 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2020Jan 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



I must take issue with giants rl comments about Woolford ruining Seb, I was at the pre season meeting when Simon pointed that Seb had turned up for pre season training overweight unfit and with a bad attitude, this after a poor season, under those circumstances any manager would be right to question a players attitude. So no, Simon didn`t ruin him and the fact Seb has done very little when picked tends to support the coaches judgement.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15511
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2020Sep 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
43854_1545310668.jpg
HUDDERSFIELD - THE BIRTHPLACE OF RUGBY LEAGUE:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_43854.jpg



Quote: Joehudds "The only problem our squad has is there not playing regularly with each other it’s a different squad every week , I thought frawley was actually decent last night , Matagi runs hard and has a decent game maybe 1/5 and uate maybe be a different player after his op we just gotta wait and find out also believe we were putting a lot of pressure on young kids who arnt really ready for it'"


that should be matagi runs hard once in every 8 matches, the rest he goes missing.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15511
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2020Sep 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
43854_1545310668.jpg
HUDDERSFIELD - THE BIRTHPLACE OF RUGBY LEAGUE:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_43854.jpg



Quote: jumper "I must take issue with giants rl comments about Woolford ruining Seb, I was at the pre season meeting when Simon pointed that Seb had turned up for pre season training overweight unfit and with a bad attitude, this after a poor season, under those circumstances any manager would be right to question a players attitude. So no, Simon didn`t ruin him and the fact Seb has done very little when picked tends to support the coaches judgement.'"


it was clear in pre season too that woolford wanted him out offering him to other clubs, no one could afford him so hes stuck here, cant blame him not wanting to play for the coach, works both ways

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15511
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2020Sep 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
43854_1545310668.jpg
HUDDERSFIELD - THE BIRTHPLACE OF RUGBY LEAGUE:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_43854.jpg



Quote: GiantJake1988 "How long until Uate is back? no mention of him at all anymore'"


back 'next week' icon_wink.gif

RankPostsTeam
International Star10464
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2023Dec 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
60098_1402496159.jpg
the future's bright the future's [color=#800000:1p3f9jf7]claret [/color:1p3f9jf7] and [color=#FFFF40:1p3f9jf7]gold [/color:1p3f9jf7]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_60098.jpg



Quote: GIANTSRL "it was clear in pre season too that woolford wanted him out offering him to other clubs, no one could afford him so hes stuck here, cant blame him not wanting to play for the coach, works both ways'"


He shouldn’t need motivating to play for the coach- he should do it for himself and his teammates.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15511
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2020Sep 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
43854_1545310668.jpg
HUDDERSFIELD - THE BIRTHPLACE OF RUGBY LEAGUE:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_43854.jpg



Quote: jools "He shouldn’t need motivating to play for the coach- he should do it for himself and his teammates.'"


yeh so should the rest too

37 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Code13 , Durham Giant
37 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Code13 , Durham Giant



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


5.07373046875:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Transfer Talk V5
The Biffs Ba
503
2m
Pre Season - 2025
mwindass
183
5m
How many games will we win
Butcher
5
6m
New Players
BigTime
137
10m
Dual Reg
Butcher
8
57m
2025 Recruitment
Clickin'knee
193
Recent
Film game
karetaker
5631
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2592
Recent
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
chapylad
12
Recent
TV Games - Not Hull
UllFC
3080
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Salford
rubber ducki
12
1m
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
28895
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
UllFC
4014
1m
Planning for next season
J7P1
175
2m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40731
2m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2592
3m
2025 Recruitment
Clickin'knee
193
3m
Fixtures
Willzay
13
3m
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
62
4m
Dual Reg
Butcher
8
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Butcher
5
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
12
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
40
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
354
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
524
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1265
England's Women Demolish The W..
1090
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1328
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1123
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1382
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1921
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2139
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2379
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1952
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2190
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2655
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2085
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2159