what exactly are these two doing?? two former half backs and we are clueless in attack

if stone has to go then then these two should follow him out the door too, stealing wages

use the money to get shaun long in, will see some proper attacking rugby then

but then again do we have the players?

cant see anything changing soon as we have just given brough another deal so the attack will stay the same.

gone are the days of players like ferres knowing how to use their centres and wingers, totally wasted, fergsuo n and roberts cant pass, the only player we have that can pass is symonds and hes a crock.

got to feel sorry for the forwards who are laying the platform for the back to perform ...dominant in possession and territory against saints, wakey and hull kr, laughable our attack

I love the idea of Brough and Long working together. I’d give it thirty minutes before one of them belts the other!

Yeah that would be fun. Still Brearley has a point and if we had some right men in at the top they wouldn't still have them here .Some three seasons ago Giants and Leeds were in the same boat in the bottom 4, Soon after Hetherington told them get your act together or some of you big earners will be gone, Look at Leeds now and look at us.

Maybe Tony smith could make a difference if he was given proper control, whoever is in control now and for a long time is making a complete B---- of it, it all starts at the top.

The club is a shambles at the top but people on here don’t like the truth unless changes are made quickly the club is on the road to nowhere support is already declining year on year

What's Luke Robinson got to do with anything. Isn't he performing well as the Under 19's coach?

read the post.

he's an assistant with thorman to rick stone aswell as u 19's coach.

stone was given these two, he didnt get to have his own backroom staff like some coaches

also said for a long time thewlis should go but it wont happen.

one things that has been constant over the years with our garbage attack is brough, thorman and robinson.. even under anderson it was poor

I'm all for a clearout but in defence of Robbo, he's doing a great job with the Under 19's. His main focus is with them and he isn't failing them.
It's just as important to the club than other things.
If the franchising comes back his role helps prove the sucsess of our youth system.
Who'd you put in charge of the 19's?

The buck stops with the head coach- he has the final say on the game plan. Thorman and Robbo are exactly what it says -assistants- they assist stone in what he wants them to do.
Funny but I don’t actually know what position stone played- he’s never said and I can’t find it online. Anyone know?

He was a half back, played 3 games for South Sydney

Does he have the final say though?

Or does Brough have more of a say than he does? Danny has been doing the same play (hospital pass to his 2nd rower) for years.

If Danny chooses not to listen to Stone, then what can he Do?

If that is in anyway the reality then stone is a worse coach than even I thought.

Wow.
if he’s passed on all his half-back creative ability then we really are screwed.

He can drop him.

i agree, brough is one of the main problems... just too easy to play against apart from his kicks.

teams must love playing against us, we make their defence look great!

we have too many ball RUNNERS instead of ball PASSERS!

mamo - runner
rankin - runner
ferguson - runner
roberts - runner

when do we ever see ferguson or roberts pass the ball???? no wonder our wingers/centres are getting involved

gone are the days of brett hodgson and kev brwon putting the money ball passes put to the wingers and the days of ferres offloading with the one handed passes.

the only player we have who can ball play is tom symonds (a former half back in his career too) but hes a crock!! cudjoe too can put mcgillvary in but hes our for half the season and be too late once hes back.

so maybe the question should be do we have the right players???????

no questioning the effort or the props as we are dominating field position etc just too easy to predict.

maybe we should try jordan turner at half back???

we come back to brough again... failed to work with brierley, failed to work with gaskell, failing to work with rankin... hmmmmmmm maybe we should try dropping brough!!! ah well hes here till 2019 so we are stuck with it im afraid

dont think anyone has the balls to do it.

he would prob go crazy and smash the stadium up.

try rankin and turner at half back... i wouldnt be complaining just to see but then again we dont have the second rowers either

so boring wathing the likes of lawrence and roberts play