What next for Woolford and the Giants, I have to say he has not impressed me much, that said with the horrendous injuries we have had it would have been difficult to achieve much anyway so you cant really say he should go.

The one thing that has been a real positive this season is the way that the young players have done really well under a lot of pressure, I don't know if that is much to do with SW or if it would have happened anyway but if we give him credit for his part in it, that's fair but it's also fair that he gets his share of the blame for the miserable performances of the team as a whole for much of the season, The forwards especially have been very very poor and apart from the odd game they have been dominated by every team they have faced, resulting in most games by and large being played in our 22 for long period.

I don't say that there hasn't been effort from them individually for most of the time but as a unified pack they have been nowhere and their line speed has been the worst iv'e ever seen', the results of which have been clear for all to see , endless dropout from the sticks and fielding kicks under or around them, all this stuff is definitely the coaches responsibility .

It will be interesting to see what changes take place over the Winter ,and it's what will determine whether i renew my season ticket or not and i suspect a lot more will be doing the same. There is a sizeable list of players who we need to be moving on, no matter how much Claret and gold some of them have in their Veins, and for me the changes need to go further than on the field, though i don't hold out too much hope for that to happen, end of the day the Giants can't afford to keep plodding on in the way they have been, We escaped again by the skin of our teeth and unless there are some big changes it will just be the same again next season, We don't have a Fairy Godmother who is going to come and make it all better. I really hope Mr Davy is going sort things out this winter.

A starting point would be.....

Cudjoe = retire

Murphy = Still has abit to offer but would like him to retire for his own good or he will end up in a wheelchair. He looks absolutely busted and cant even walk properly anymore.

Uate, Frawley, Matagi & Seb = Go home / move on

Ollie Roberts & Adam Walne = Move on

Reality is though...

Murphy will retire at the end of 2020 when his contract is up.
Walne will leave at the end of 2020 when his contract is up.
Matagi will leave at the end of 2020 when his contract is up.
Cudjoe will spend most of 2020 on the sidelines.
Uate will spend most of 2020 on the sidelines.

Roberts might move on.
Frawley might go home as rumoured already.

Uate deserves a season now he has had his op and will be fully fit next season. Cudjoe if fit, is still an asset, we will know if he is fit before the season starts, Matagi carries the ball well and his stats backs that up. We need to strengthen in the forwards and hopefully stay stay relatively injury free then we have the nucleus of a good team.(using the right tactics)!

Uate deserves a season now he has had his op and will be fully fit next season. Cudjoe if fit, is still an asset, we will know if he is fit before the season starts, Matagi carries the ball well and his stats backs that up. We need to strengthen in the forwards and hopefully stay stay relatively injury free then we have the nucleus of a good team.(using the right tactics)!

I echo that pal!

Well fair enough we all have our opinions on players but whoever you are for or against it's been screaming obvious that what we have had this year has been woefully short of whats needed in the pack.

I take the point that with strengthening the right tactics are vital and that's down to the coach so it's watch this space.

You must think Frawley is awful jools by stating that the other 2 are more awful, but to be fair how many halves would look good behind our pack, Gaskill certainly has what it takes given some go forward, lets see if we get some next season.

Matagi has been scapegoats I think, his stats are decent.

Seb has been poor this season, name someone who hasn't.

Ollie Robert's, needs to step up. Give him benefit for being injured all season, he has shown he can be excellent.

Frawley, curates egg. Same as Russell and Holmes tbh.

Cudjoe - if he can get fully fit, he is a great asset, if not, retire for his own health

Uate - came injured, played injured. Gets a pass for that season, but needs a big season for us in 2020.

Murphy - cant fault his commitment, but he is a back up player now

Too many injured players at the start, same as last year and that must be fixed. Our squad is top 6 on paper, just it's been on the bench all season

I don’t think frawley is awful - but at times under pressure this season his decision making has been. - as has that of all our halves. I still think frawley, in a settled partnership, could be better than he’s so far shown as we have seen some good stuff in patches.
We still need a leader on the field, frawley isn’t that any more than any other guys we have out there are.

I agree he’s shown that he can play , thought he had a good game against cats , think he’s been the scape goat for a lot of people this year and a leader is needed think the closest we’ve got is leeming and he doesn’t play a full game , also think fullback is what we need but rather someone young , rather than oldie from aus

Well we tried with both gigot who’s going to the NRL and Hampshire- who clearly doesn’t want to come to us. He may still do as wakey have recruited in that area already but not sure if someone who sees us as a last resort is someone we should sign.
In some respects would serve him right if he has to drop down a league for a while. Hoffman is about three years too late- he didn’t sign when we wanted him to when he still had a good few years in him!

For me, woolford needs to step up or taxi home. A sign of a good coach is to motivate and change things at half time if things are going well. The Leeds and cas games come to mind, if anything the second halves were worse than the first and too many games being scoreless as well.
Decision making - to lose mamo, rankin and Brough and replace with a full back (shipped out), an injured has been from oz and turning a potential international winger into a jibbering wreck at full back is folly.
Recruitment - a renowned full back, well we have one current my plying his trade at cas, but seems his face doesn't fit. We are hamstrung for the rest unless we can ship out or pay up but at least Edwards will bring some grunt.

You really think Rankin is the answer to our problems?

For me it was the right time to get rid of Brough. However there should have been a top class replacement lined up to come in and take on the playmaking responsibility.
I also feel that Macintosh should have stayed on the wing and Uates money had been spent on a quality fullback.
I still feel these 2 positions are the main areas that need addressing before next season. With Edwards signing if we could also add a big aggressive prop then we would also add some much needed grunt to the pack.

No I don't think rankin is the answer but if you read what I said, we are hamstrung with contracts etc and he's the best option for next season. Just shows what a desperate state we are in that position.

rather have grix than rankin