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For 80 minutes like our whole season that was embarrassing !!

Grix needs to go
Ellis looks overweight ( seemed to have trimmed down prior to his injury) offers nothing
Crabtree - thanks for your service much respect for that but your done!! Your body just isn't capable any more
Hinchy - supposedly getting better week on week.. I don't see it.

Stupid repeated errors , lack of heart , lack of willing!! I fear for us in the middle 8 that was poor!!

Full credit to Wakie. Hope they go on and reach the final. Good game plan. They came and did a job!!

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l,l second all of that, then Ken needs to get down to B & Qs an buy himself an axe, a big one, place it in the board room, and then invite every single person involved in this club to look at it. Then he needs to start swinging it.

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I agree with everything. As I said on the other thread:

we as the club are SCREWED im afraid ive been and put £50 on us to get relegated which we will. Maybe its a good thing if we go down and start a fresh getting all the dead wood gone who are on long contracts?. Brough is SHOT Crabtree is SHOT. Wardle doesnt want to be here. The people that think Grix is better defensively than Brierley, are you on crack? Proved again once today he is a liability and we are immediately at a -10 point disadvantage with him on the field. Brierley has one not so good game and gets dropped wheras Grix has a mare week in week out and gets selected.

anyone please tell me the benefits of playing grix over brierley now?

Jamie Ellis = Championship player
Kyle Wood = Championship Player
Grix = York Knights level
Wardle = Head is elsewhere
Brough and Crabtree = Past it, 1 in 4 have a decent game

Jake Connor - Not a winger but only one with heart and aggression and hes gone to Hull.

Ryan Brierley should ask for an immediate release as hes going to get wasted at this turmoil of a club.

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Quote: boomer "l,l second all of that, then Ken needs to get down to B & Qs an buy himself an axe, a big one, place it in the board room, and then invite every single person involved in this club to look at it. Then he needs to start swinging it.'"


Would love it if that was Davy's style. Whacks a pair of riggers on and some safety goggles

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The only thing that did please me was the liveliness of Bruno who looked as though he had his chains removed

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Well those surmising it was all about Anderson losing the dressing room- do you still feel the same way? Kelly doesn't seem to be inspiring the team any more than Anderson did- he's also selecting the same team Anderson did- so either the problem wasn't Anderson or Kelly is clueless.
Personally I think it's the former.
I also will reiterate my feelings from earlier in the season that this new fitness and conditioning bunch aren't getting the players fit and conditioned. We look sluggish and tired.
After the last time we played Wakefield I thought we couldn't play any worse- I was wrong!

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Quote: jools "Well those surmising it was all about Anderson losing the dressing room- do you still feel the same way? Kelly doesn't seem to be inspiring the team any more than Anderson did- he's also selecting the same team Anderson did- so either the problem wasn't Anderson or Kelly is clueless.
Personally I think it's the former.
I also will reiterate my feelings from earlier in the season that this new fitness and conditioning bunch aren't getting the players fit and conditioned. We look sluggish and tired.
After the last time we played Wakefield I thought we couldn't play any worse- I was wrong!'"



You know all,about management.

Anderson lost the dressing room, people then go into silos or cliques or leave or in their heads give up.

Morale is shot.

Once it is gone it is hard to get it back.

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This isn't something that had happened overnight, it has built up over around 3 years of poor management and extremely poor or signings, or you could say a lack of poor signings. On top of that you have the Ferres and Robinson situation and the injuries at the beginning of the season. It has all accumulated and is now hitting the club extremely hard. It seems as though they have tried to take major shortcuts for a few seasons now and it has finally bitten them on the a*se. Not sure where to go from here, a lot of damage has been done. A complete re-build is needed.

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Quote: jools "Well those surmising it was all about Anderson losing the dressing room- do you still feel the same way? Kelly doesn't seem to be inspiring the team any more than Anderson did- he's also selecting the same team Anderson did- so either the problem wasn't Anderson or Kelly is clueless.
Personally I think it's the former.
I also will reiterate my feelings from earlier in the season that this new fitness and conditioning bunch aren't getting the players fit and conditioned. We look sluggish and tired.
After the last time we played Wakefield I thought we couldn't play any worse- I was wrong!'"

We are massively unfit and I've been saying that for months. Ellis's shape is an absolute disgrace for a half back for a starter. Trouble is Anderson has changed the conditioning setup and there's nothing we can do about it now. This is also the reason we have so many injuries because most of the players are not in good condition.
Briefly has got to play in the halves with Broughy but I cannot for the life in me understand why Brierley has been completely dropped from the 19 and Grix gets to play week in week out, when he's an absolute liability.

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Quote: jools "Well those surmising it was all about Anderson losing the dressing room- do you still feel the same way? Kelly doesn't seem to be inspiring the team any more than Anderson did- he's also selecting the same team Anderson did- so either the problem wasn't Anderson or Kelly is clueless.
Personally I think it's the former.
I also will reiterate my feelings from earlier in the season that this new fitness and conditioning bunch aren't getting the players fit and conditioned. We look sluggish and tired.
After the last time we played Wakefield I thought we couldn't play any worse- I was wrong!'"

Not sure why your having a go at Kelly, the damage was done well before he took over.
His position is obviously on a temporary basis as he said during his post match interview the sooner the club fill the position on a full time basis the better it will be.

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Quote: chissitt "Not sure why your having a go at Kelly, the damage was done well before he took over.
His position is obviously on a temporary basis as he said during his post match interview the sooner the club fill the position on a full time basis the better it will be.'"


I'm not having a go at Kelly- I'm pointing out Kelly has made no difference-many were expecting a Wakefield like change when there was a coach change. - we haven't got one. Which suggests that the coach wasn't the issue in the first place.

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Quote: jools "Well those surmising it was all about Anderson losing the dressing room- do you still feel the same way? Kelly doesn't seem to be inspiring the team any more than Anderson did- he's also selecting the same team Anderson did- so either the problem wasn't Anderson or Kelly is clueless.
Personally I think it's the former.
I also will reiterate my feelings from earlier in the season that this new fitness and conditioning bunch aren't getting the players fit and conditioned. We look sluggish and tired.
After the last time we played Wakefield I thought we couldn't play any worse- I was wrong!'"


If A Kelly was a good coach he would be coaching a Super league side full time. I think he must have rung PA to ask him what side to pick, The fact that he is no good doesn't make PA any better than he was, I don't know If he had lost the dressing room or not, I do know he was a poor coach for us, and we are reaping the harvest now.

Far as I'm concerned Steve May has it spot on, The whole club wants overhauling

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Kelly is just papering over the cracks until you get a new coach.

It sound to me that their on with it.

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How many of the potential 20 new managers willdropout of the running having seen what their Is to work with after last nights performance

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The sad thing is we scored the same number of tries as Wakey- but looked no where near.

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