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Time to not renew Andersons contract at seasons end. Too many losses in the big games and today's woeful performance is becoming the norm I'm afraid.

No passion, panic and no plan B. The best chance on paper of winning something gone without a fight you could see the mindset change from the second Scott Grix's stupid offload sent Watkins upfield to score.

It's no one players fault just a team, tactics and a Coach who have gone as far as they can I have been saying this for a while today should be the defining day when the call is we need change to move forward !!

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4 weeks ago after a a jibe about knee jerkers from Jools i wrote
Quote: "If we beat Leeds it will be down to our performance against theirs.


However it is the following game against Leeds which is the important one.

The reality is that there are only 7 important games for us this season 4 in the CC and 3 in the playoffs.

Depending on how we do in them that is how i will judge the season.

If we dont get into the top 8, have a good CC run or play offs then the season has been poor IMHO'"


I stand by that.

We need to make a judgement about the season when we have more to go on.



But there are many who posted on a previous thread about how close our results were and that we have never been badly beat lose by one score or less blah do bloody blah. Today was a pasting and in a BIG important game.

The usual whingers cannot even blame Bentham for the second half. We actually did better with Bentham reffing us. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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I would throw the book at him

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Bad decision to replace leeming with robinson, looking past it now is robbo, but he has for a few seasons now.

very disappointing we couldnt match leeds in the opening quarter again.

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Quote: Durham Giant "


But there are many who posted on a previous thread about how close our results were and that we have never been badly beat lose by one score or less blah do bloody blah.

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Don't know why you say blah do bloody dah, those statements are true! This is why i'm in the anderson in camp, we lost most of our games because of poor ball control early in the season, anderson can't catch the ball for em! I do agree however questions need to be asked at the club about what this team are doing in big games. Where's the progress since 2013 in terms of cup games and play offs?? We look further away than ever for competing in these types of games.

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In any business it has to expand and move forward or it contracts.

My post is not a rant just a considered opinion of where we are and do we wish to move forward !!

All businesses refresh their staff to achieve growth, new ideas and a change in direction. What I am saying is the time has arrived at the Giants to take this option as the Coach is out of contract at the end of the season.

No Anderson doesn't drop the ball etc etc but he and his team plan the tactics, pick the team and ask for the recruitment of the players they want to move forward and improve.

This is a business decision in a results and reward (win trophies, reach finals) industry as in my opinion it is time to refresh and have fresh input !!

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It hasn't taken long for the naysayers to get on here after a loss does it. Quiet last few weeks on this board. Tonight tonnes of traffic- funny that

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well obviously, there isn't much to talk about on a forum when it's going well! hence why a general election thread got so many replies recently icon_lol.gif Noone here is knee jerking, opinions are being put forward based on trends for a few years after shipping over 40 points in another big game we come second best.

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But yet we score 40 points and ......silence.
its no wonder our club isn't progressing.

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Elaborate. Why is it 'no wonder'? All forums work pretty much the same way you know!

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Quote: jools "It hasn't taken long for the naysayers to get on here after a loss does it. Quiet last few weeks on this board. Tonight tonnes of traffic- funny that'"


Nothing but a considered opinion we have not played well all season. Time to take of the 'goggles' and be objective lets critique the coach's/team performance.

1. Should have left Leeming in the side for either Robbo, Wood or Ellis !!

2. Heads went down too quickly today after Grix's stupid offload and Wardles jumping out of the line conceded 12 quick points after an early bout of pressure

3. Despite the Fartown band and company blaming Bentham, I'm his biggest critic as you should all know, but today lazy one armed tackles into the head area Jack Hughes one of the major culprits conceding two penalties For lazy high tacklesfollwed by a Leeds score. if they have no legs they can't run basic law of RL what else could Bentham give very lazy tackles all afternoon.

4. Brough's captaincy is 'shot' we need a physical high octane leader who commands respect.

5. Murphy and Grix not wanting to catch the ball conceded points one needs to shout and take the ball.

6. After our tries Sinfield kicked into the same spot three times and the ball hit terra firma we hadn't the Brains to change positions

7. Once again we underplayed Mulally why ?? He looked our most likely forward !! PA to blame

8. The Fartown army berated Huby for Cuthbertsons try, but he made the original tackle under the post and had to get out past three men to be there wrong man in the wrong place because no one else in our pack tried to get there.

9. Leeds had a simple game plan quick PTB with a man running either side of the acting half simple effective stoppable if the team can adapt on the field we can't.

10. No plan B no heart and spanked in a big game again clueless, leaderless and shameful for all the noisy supporters who paid £20 to watch that !!

I could go on but as I originally said the time to change direction is here and now or the momentum will shift and a lot of the good work will be undone !!

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Quote: jools "But yet we score 40 points and ......silence.
its no wonder our club isn't progressing.'"


Our club won't progress if we turn a blind eye to inadequacy there's a belief around here from the self styled faithful who blindly believe in all the Giants do that they can't do any wrong and don't like any criticism constructive or not !!

Fact 50/50 on league results out of the Cup we've already lost more than the previous two seasons this is Andersons team and by its results he should stand or fall.

The facts the figures all point to a downward overall trend in performance and results why would we renew his contract?? I really hope he turns it around but two or three more performances like that in the next few games and we could end up in the 'relegation' scrap we won't go down unless we freeze in those games but it's not where a progressive club should be.

i have watched this club since 1961 I'm not disloyal I was one of only a handful who went at one stage but despite my unwavering support whether the result is good or bad I and others have the right to voice an opinion after a shambles like that !! But we will still turn up and support the next game see you at 'Cas'

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Quote: jools "It hasn't taken long for the naysayers to get on here after a loss does it. Quiet last few weeks on this board. Tonight tonnes of traffic- funny that'"


You've already mentioned it on another thread icon_biggrin.gif

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It is a results based business and I'm sure PAs position will be reviewed at the end of the season based on what happens in the league. I believe we've left it too late now to make changes this season - of we were going to do it, it should have been a few weeks ago.

However, I don't buy into the whole "we're only losing by a few points" argument. We're still losing. When has it become acceptable to lose at all??

Also heard lots of critics on the terrace today, but no one has a go at them for their negativity (or maybe that's what the fight at the end was about??)

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Quote: GiantMisterE "It is a results based business and I'm sure PAs position will be reviewed at the end of the season based on what happens in the league. I believe we've left it too late now to make changes this season - of we were going to do it, it should have been a few weeks ago.

However, I don't buy into the whole "we're only losing by a few points" argument. We're still losing. When has it become acceptable to lose at all??

Also heard lots of critics on the terrace today, but no one has a go at them for their negativity (or maybe that's what the fight at the end was about??)'"


Crikey at one point when they were losing Kyle Wood looked sheepish when he realised the fans were still singing and the negativity didn't come on until well into the second half but can you blame anyone who has spent his hard earned £20 plus fuel or bus and food for not been happy I can't !!

But if our own fans are daft enough to have claret and gold tinted 'specs' then I can see where the fight came from !!

There is a thought that all that matters are the band, flags and certain opinion. I hate losing but can accept getting beaten by a better side on the day if we gave it 100%.

today we made it easier for Leeds to be better and there were a lot of none 100%'s surely the main expectation of professional sportsmen !!

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