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| Thanks for responding, it's always interesting to hear another take on the situation, though I suspect your glasses will be more of the half empty variety - and quite understandable given the frustrations we have all shared over the last few years.
I am well aware that Russell is well regarded by many other than Watson. He has my support when he plays and, as stated, I wish for him to succeed. Appears to like the club, has family connections with the club, tries hard. All laudable as far as I am concerned. What I clearly fail to appreciate, however, and I am evidently not alone in this, is what his attributes are that make him sufficiently good enough for a team seeking to challenge for the playoffs and to facilitate a brand of rugby attractive enough to entice the seemingly apathetic Huddersfield public back to the ground.
You're quite right about Nathan Brown's entertaining sides with the likes of Hodgson, Brown/ Robinson/ Brough and Lunt in the spine, all of whom had attributes such as pace, speed of thought & creativity. I hope you're correct that a more exciting brand of rugby will bring more of the fans back. But, as you suggest, and regrettably so, this does not appear to be Watson's style; a style apparently both influenced by and influencing his choice of player.
As I alluded to in my previous post, too many of our spine (and the rest) are steady away. I recall Brett Hodgson at Castleford charging from one touchline to the other in order to perform a try-saving tackle on Richard Owen, which was immediately followed by scoring the decisive try in the next set of six. As much as I like and rate Connor, he can appear laboured in his defensive coverage. We don't have a Lunt or Levi at hooker. Milner is solid and dependable but not a hooker to get us moving forward. Very much a Watson type of player, it seems. In the halves we have Clune who looks good but it is early days, Lolohea who is a bit rocks or diamonds, and another Watson type in Russell.
If you are considering returning to watch the side in the future what type of player would you prefer to see? A Lunt or a Milner? A Brown/ Brough from the halcyon Nathan Brown days or a Russell? It's chalk and cheese, unfortunately, isn't it? As to what keeps your fellow octogenarian, Mr Davy, going, I have no idea - a half full glass, perhaps? - but I'm eternally grateful for it and I wish his enthusiasm could permeate through to more people in the town - both through the good and the bad. I've seen plenty since the early nineties so, after following since 1953, you must have seen more than your fair share. It may take some changes, but I sincerely hope that you get to experience more good times ahead.
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| Enjoyed reading both reflective responses. I feel particularly disappointed with the lack of a quality hooker, I know they are not easy to find. There seems to be a big gap in recruitment between the top few teams and others.
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| It's nice to see more posters on here! I have been talking about our lack of speed in the spine, and Watson's inability to strengthen the areas we are weak in since at least the middle of last season, but nice to see that i am not the only one who thinks this. If we can all see this, how bad is a coach who clearly can't? He has had lots of opportunity to get better spine players since Levi sadly departed to Australia but has signed only journeymen.
I agree about Connor creating something out of nothing, and if you put him in a side that already has plenty of pace, he would look very good. In our side , he was a massive waste of money as he lacks what we so desperately need, pace. He is one of the slowest spine players off the mark in the league and certainly wont get better in that regard with age, no matter how much weight he loses. Maybe, that signing wasn't totally down to Watson, because Connor clearly has ties here, but a better coach would have put his foot down and said that's not the player we want to spend big money on.
As i have stated previously i honestly cannot think of a less exciting Huddersfield team to watch, even in the bad old days there was at least a Brandon Costin, Brad Drew or Stanley Gene to light up a game with some spark. This team has absolutely nothing in the middle of the park, Lolohea has clearly gone backwards, Russell has never been anything other than championship standard and when pressure is applied to him he runs around like a headless chicken, or simply tips the ball on to someone in a worse position that him. Clunes is fine, but nothing special and our Hookers are utterly dire at making yards and attacking the line.
I honestly think Ken persists with Watson because this is his last hurrah, he has tried and failed to get a team to win something for the longest time, and i think the big backing of Watson was probably his last spin of the wheel and he can't quite let go of it yet. He will soon though, as i have said previously when it's clear we wont make the playoffs and are out of the cup he will have to wake up and smell the coffee and finally sack him. Sorry Ian, you were a one trick pony at Saford and i'm far from convinced Salford's playstyle was down to you as you have brought absolutely none of it with you here and they continue playing a great style of Rugby no matter who is coaching them,
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| Quote: WelshGiant "Firstly can I say I'm sorry, you're quite right.
I'm just very angry & frustrated at our lack of going forward as a club and continuing to sign utter muppets.
So I take it back.'"
Accepted…very sporting of you. I think you’re being a bit hard on your team, it’s still early days. You will make the six imo.
Great result today by the way
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| Quote: redmuzza "Accepted…very sporting of you. I think you’re being a bit hard on your team, it’s still early days. You will make the six imo.
Great result today by the way
The result was as i predicted, we are good at punishing the teams below us (Hull, Cas, London) but terrible against anyone else. We will probably win our next games against London and Hull again, but we are still a poor side. We will not make the six, i put us ninth, our spine is awful.
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| Didn't get to the game but also not too surprised as Hull are awful. How did Tui play? I think he's a better option than Russell. Also hope Greenwood can stay fit and run his weight. I'd like to see the young Aussie hooker tried soon.
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