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| Heart & head for me. Pryce, we all hope, is a player with a match winning X factor and appears to be the sort of lad who'll relish the big occasion but inexperienced with significant match fitness conerns. Cogger is limited but steady, better defensively and match fit, with probably a bit of confidence after his drop goal. I think I'd go with head - I'm just not sure we can go with half backs who between them you've got one who went off injured in the last game & may still be considered a doubt & one whose been suspended for a couple of months. I think Watson will go with Cogger but may choose Pryce over Golding on the bench.
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| Is there any way fages could still play or is it not allowed now he's not been named?
I.e could we say 5 players are injured so we need to draft fages in? Watson said fages could have played at a push last week!
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| According to my grandad Ramsden was a similar character to Pryce, one of his tries he had a man free for an easy try and dummied to score in the '53 final. He said he wouldn't have been able to come back Huddersfield if he hadn't scored it! Both 19, both halves, maybe it's fate! I do think he will play Cogger and put Pryce on the bench, but i can't see us winning with Cogger and Ollie in the halves. I also think Wigan will play Leuluai(sp), as he is a massive big game player who will be looking to put himself about with his big shots. He has manage to sneak him under the radar as everyone thought he was out, i was certainly relieved he wouldn't be playing.
So they have players extra, and we have a massive miss, it is going to take them being off their game i'm afraid for us to come up with anything.
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| How many games has Fages played for us this season? He is a big miss, but I remain confident we will put in a good performance. I was in the camp last season of doubting Russell's ability to continue improving. I am very pleased to be eating my words this season. The young man is growing into a leader on the pitch. By all accounts his hamstring is fine and he is good to go. I have been happy with Coggers performances and would say hes continued to improve and grow on me. Russell and Cogger are capable of making us tick with Tui helping with the creative kicking.
I went to Wigan to watch us and Pryce struggled with their physicality. For a Cup Final where the intensity will be through the roof I simply cant see how he will be match fit and up to defensive duties. Cogger starts without a doubt for me and I think Watson too. Can Pryce take a position on the bench? Its a shoot out between him and Golding. Golding has earned the spot and is very versatile. Could Pryce produce THE moment of pure class to win the game? Without a doubt.
Also watching at Wigan I saw our pack really tear into them in the second half. We won the battle up front convincingly in my view but couldn't convert that dominance into tries. Which would push us needing Pryce on the bench. Also we didn't have Levi there so he will be a great addition for us to up the tempo and push them hard.
But with all things considered, Im still on the fence! haha. Id like like to see Pryce have 25mins at a tiring Wigan depending on the game situation.
Its going to be an arm wrestle. I just hope we start well and then grind them down over the 80 minutes. Really impressed by our fitness levels particularly across the bigger lads. Here's hoping we can do it.
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| "So they have players extra, and we have a massive miss, it is going to take them being off their game i'm afraid for us to come up with anything."
Sounds like you've made your mind up already. I wouldn't bother watching!
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| I'm a realist yes. They now have all the cards, Fages has really been huge in our better performances and has the experience and temperament for this type of game. We now have no halves with any experience at this level.
Thinking about it i would actually play Lolohea and Russell in the halves and Golding at full back with Pryce on the bench. I just do not rate Cogger at all, he is so average in everything he does.
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| Quote Hangerman2="Hangerman2"I'm a realist yes. They now have all the cards, Fages has really been huge in our better performances and has the experience and temperament for this type of game. We now have no halves with any experience at this level.'"
So? Neither do they if they play cust and smith! Both younger than our halves.
If leuleui does play he will probably play at 9 rather than in the halves and there are question marks over whether he’s fully fit and will actually play.
I’d stay home and wash your hair if I were you hangerman. You’ve already made your mind up we are doomed. I do hope the team don’t read how confident you are in their ability.
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| I say it as i see it, feel free to be critical but it won't change me. I'm not saying we can't win, what i said was that they need to have a bad day for us to have a chance now.
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| Quote Hangerman2="Hangerman2"I'm a realist yes. They now have all the cards, Fages has really been huge in our better performances and has the experience and temperament for this type of game. We now have no halves with any experience at this level.
Thinking about it i would actually play Lolohea and Russell in the halves and Golding at full back with Pryce on the bench. I just do not rate Cogger at all, he is so average in everything he does.'"
I’m glad you’re not coach.
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| Fages has played 6 games this season. Do you go watch us?
He's a cracking player! Don't get me wrong. But you talk like we cant play without him?
We have a solid side, we will be fit, we will be organised and we will very much be up for it.
Im sure Fages will be there with the team to hope out. We have good numbers of big game experience lads now.
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| Quote HD8CK1="HD8CK1"How many games has Fages played for us this season? He is a big miss, but I remain confident we will put in a good performance. I was in the camp last season of doubting Russell's ability to continue improving. I am very pleased to be eating my words this season. The young man is growing into a leader on the pitch. By all accounts his hamstring is fine and he is good to go. I have been happy with Coggers performances and would say hes continued to improve and grow on me. Russell and Cogger are capable of making us tick with Tui helping with the creative kicking.
I went to Wigan to watch us and Pryce struggled with their physicality. For a Cup Final where the intensity will be through the roof I simply cant see how he will be match fit and up to defensive duties. Cogger starts without a doubt for me and I think Watson too. Can Pryce take a position on the bench? Its a shoot out between him and Golding. Golding has earned the spot and is very versatile. Could Pryce produce THE moment of pure class to win the game? Without a doubt.
Also watching at Wigan I saw our pack really tear into them in the second half. We won the battle up front convincingly in my view but couldn't convert that dominance into tries. Which would push us needing Pryce on the bench. Also we didn't have Levi there so he will be a great addition for us to up the tempo and push them hard.
But with all things considered, Im still on the fence! haha. Id like like to see Pryce have 25mins at a tiring Wigan depending on the game situation.
Its going to be an arm wrestle. I just hope we start well and then grind them down over the 80 minutes. Really impressed by our fitness levels particularly across the bigger lads. Here's hoping we can do it.'"
It’s an interesting idea to play pryce on the bench instead of golding but a risk. Not sure one I’d personally want to take in a final but Watson may feel differently. it would mean we had plenty of creativity out there. It means Levi has to play a full 80 minutes and we have to pray he doesn’t get injured during the game as we have no one really able to cover properly in that position. It means if he does get injured or towards the end of the game as he tired we would be vulnerable around the ruck and wigan are masters at exploiting that.
I’m glad it’s not my choice to make!
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