Watts was just trying to get to his feet and Leeming threw it into his shoulder.

Those are always going to be penalised the other way now, though if a player stands up near the ruck I’m not convinced it should be.

disagree with criticism of Matagi, thought he vran into their line well and showed good agression.It wasnt the forwards that cost us. Overall we played well, a few errors/wrong decisions at times but cant be too critical. we are becoming a decent team and will win a few games yet.

Totally agree Jumper.

Matagi was good again last night. Think he’s exactly the type of prop we need. Tackles hard and often. Runs strong - and usually wins the ruck.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

Which of our props aren't any good then? As we make absolutely no metres up field compared to teams coming the other way.

its own to our line speed in defence......
We stand and wait for the opposition to come to us, which gives them the momentum and allows them to make metres after contact, other teams push up quickly in defence and so stop our momentum with their own.

surprised some think matago had a good game



he did an 18min stint first half.... taai came on and changed the game for us

matagi came back on second half and gave away two penalties and was subbed soone after... how is that a good game?

and im sorry but we lose the ruck and collision in tackles far too often and it puts us under pressure, we need some size.... ikahihifo could help on that front but hes frozen out.

when you think how much of our salary cap is not playing it makes you wonder something has gone wrong....... uate / frawley / ikahihifo / cudjoe.... got to be 4 of our biggest earners... imagine any other team having the size of that out of their team.... and 3 of them can actually play right now!

So are you suggesting Matagi is dropped for seb

well thats not going to happen is it

an in form seb id pick over most sl props in the league... shame woolford froze him out as he wants that cap space to bring someone else in.

a matagi one good game in every 7 or a seb 1 good game every 3?

have them both in the team if you like i dont mind..

matagi needs to be more consistent for me.

Seb didn’t have one good game in a season - if we are comparing what he showed he was capable of in 2017. He’s not been in form has he.

Not a fan of either Seb or Matagi. Seb was dire the whole of 2018, a fraction of the player he wasn't in 2017.

Matagi, like Brearley says has 1 good game every now and again, not adequate for me.