Watts was just trying to get to his feet and Leeming threw it into his shoulder.

Those are always going to be penalised the other way now, though if a player stands up near the ruck I’m not convinced it should be.

You really need to stop putting your own twist on what you think I’ve said. And actually read the words I have used. I have nowhere at all blamed the referee for losing. I talked about 2 decisions he made- but not in the context of the outcome of the game. If you read any of my other posts about the game I have not blamed the referee for losing.
You’ve called me out and accused me of being a liar- but you're the one making things up.

Tell you what jools youre right and I'm wrong and I REALLY will leave it this time. Good luck for the rest of the season

been in that position before where your teams indiscipline has cost you the game and its not a nice feeling to see the penalty count so high against the opposition, rather than whinge about the penalty count being high why not look at your own clubs indiscretions as to the reason why it was too high.

one thing I hate is having to equal out the penalties to pacify supporters that are clueless to the rules

luckily I don't have that problem she's very knowledgeable and willing to see the other side of an argument, must be awful having t live life to the pinny

Not much dumb about the win at Salford ... good luck the Giants, hope you stay up.