canoeman super league teams go to France show there passports play the game and come home ,then I asked how a team from so far away can play home and away alternate, you do not answer ,I suspect because deep down you know it is not possible , I hope you do get promoted then the idiots at red hall will have to sort this out,perhaps your pots of money may sort it good luck with that,idiotic post no logic argument or debate just stupidity, so no more responce from me iether.

Well said squire

My post was factual...you will find out next year just like everyone else did the hard way.....some people learn the hard way....its the way of the world I guess.
Like with the VISA thing...all that it took to solve the problem was a phone call....A PHONE CALL!

The title of the thread is 'Toronto Defies Logic'...its a little misleading. All that Toronto does is show initiative, flexibility and a belief in itself. All of these problems people point out are, in fact, not problems at all but minor road bumps. In fact, many present unique opportunities for growth. The growth is explosive over here, the spirit unbounded....the future like a glowing new sunrise while on the lake in the canoe to welcome yet another wonderful day.

Your reply: put on a tin foil hat, pretend it isn't happening with both fingers plugging the ears and eyes closed and then hide. We don't think like that over here, we engage, we learn, we observe and WE GROW!

The only logic Toronto defies is a self created one by people who see massive barriers and not unique opportunity.

A PHONE CALL....ALL IT TOOK TO SOLVE ALL THE VISA ISSUES THE CLUBS COULD NOT SEEM TO SURMOUNT BY THEMSELVES WAS ONE PHONE CALL FROM ONE CLUB (TWP)!

Easy pickings next year for us...this is going to be too easy.

Canoeman, while I’m quite happy to have Toronto kicking around the place, that will quickly change if your supporters start being arrogant tits.

Toronto’s first taste of SL rugby saw them take a 66 point drubbing and I see nothing about Toronto that suggests they will break the iron law of sport - it’s nigh on impossible to maintain a happy crowd and team when you’re getting thumped every week. Believe me, the people on here know that better than most.

All I did was ask if Salford and the other SL teams would be traveling with a large number of fans....this interests me since its all new over here and the traveling fans are fun and nice to talk to. The Wolfpack fans like the visiting fans. Then I was called clueless.

Toronto handed Warrington their head on a plate until halftime and some ref on a power trip put us down 2 and 3 men...the first taste of SL was actually the year before when we played Hull and Salford.

This is what you have to understand about Toronto which fans over there just don't seem to get: if Toronto is getting thumped every week in SL we would easily maintain a happy crowd (probably grow; its a Toronto thing; ever hear of the Toronto Maple Laughs) and the team would still be positive and loving it over here....what is true for teams over there is different than the sports world over here....its a totally different dynamic.

You say it is the 'iron law of sport' but I'm just telling you it doesn't apply to this good thing we got going in Toronto called the Wolfpack....I know you don't believe me...that is why someone started the 'Defies Logic' thread...but the logic is self imposed.

The sky is the limit for Toronto....and we are not clueless....we know exactly what we are doing!

"Run With The Pack!"

We’ll see.

Rugby league is littered with optimistic attempts to expand by dropping a team in.

Almost all of them have failed.

I’m not suggesting that Toronto will fail, just that it steps up enormously on the field now and history is against them.

Yes, we will see shortly. But lets be clear, no one dropped us in...we have earned it from the very bottom up and we've learned alot along the way....ALOT!

The Toronto Wolfpack will not fail...we are very different from the others....even the most casual of observers should be able to see this.

Its just a small minor step at the end of a long arduous climb for us.....we have spotted the campsite after a hot day on the river....just a few more J strokes and we are there.

History is with us!!!! We are the makers of the new narrative.

"Create History With The Pack!"

Im all for you making history- but you are t going to make history with a team of SL players from The UK. Just do it in Canada with Canadians otherwise it’s not history it’s just Another side.
Catalan made history. Toronto are just Leigh playing away from home.

Well, you never know.

But it’s a tough gig. Of the current SL clubs the most recently founded was Catalans - and they started out in 1934. Plenty of clubs have come and gone since then.

Good luck with it anyway.

Clueless, totally clueless.

Why thank you for the good wishes Steve...good luck to you this year in return...looks like you have a keeper as a Coach there.
You gotta believe Steve...we are not like any other club...we are the Alpha and the Omega...we are THE WOLFPACK!

Rugby League your saviour is finally here!...lay out the palm fronds upon our return...we come from a far and distant land bearing gifts.

"Run With The Pack!"