Don't see us getting any change out of Cas to be honest, but then i didn't see anything for us against either Hull or Wigan, If Wakey beat Hull " which i expect them to do" that puts them beyond us anyway unless we can get something at Cas.

Catalan can expect at least 2 points, so same applies to them, then we are left with Leeds whose last two games look well winnable, so 9th is still a very real possibillity , but we have started fighting a bit now so it's not over yet, Was that HKR game that did us no good.

Yes Grandad I think you have hit the nail on the head .I check the disciplinary each week and i find that the bigger sides are rarely penalised Tomkins when we played Wigan was gobbing off at the ref the whole game and nothing said,at Cas Ive seen less headshots in a world middleweight fight.

If Broughy had gobbed off half as much as Tomkins he'd have been binned well before halftime. Tomkins became boring with his moaning and I'm sure he did it to slow the game down as Wigan were out on their feet at times. The so called bigger club's just don't seem to get the right sanctions for their play that a lesser club would get. It's been going on for decades and is getting no better hopefully the new man at the top of SL will get a grip of the situation.

Nope- I don’t buy it. Tomkins can speak to the ref all he wants as captain it’s his right. How do you know he was “gobbing off” we can’t hear what’s said- or crucially HOW it’s said. The problem is broughy doesn’t curb his language and swears and insults.
There’s a big difference in Tomkins in the refs ear all night and Tomkins ranting raving insulting and swearing.

Gobbing off, talking to the ref or asking for the refs phone number it's just a phrase Jools. I wasn't implying that he was being abusive, just monotonous and trying to slow the Giants down to give his side a rest. If you can't hear what's being said out on the field how do you know that Broughy swears constantly? Saying that though I will bough to your superior knowledge on all things RL.

Please don’t put words in my mouth- I didn’t use the word constantly with reference to brough. But we do know he uses foul and abusive language as it says so in his disciplinary reviews!!!!