They don't just base it on signings though jools, I think they will try to calculate whether our players are going to be any fitter ( or luckier ) than last season, whether the club is showing more or less ambition, and of course the strength of the squad and how they performed last year will have some influence, none of which mean they will necessarily get it right. How many of them had Wakey in the top five for this season.

Overall though you would have to say bottom four sounds about right going on the last two seasons, which in a way you could say is progress, whether it's enough to improve gates is very doubtful, and until numbers get up to at least what they were under N Brown the club won't go forward. I would say the general level of most signings is an indicator of the clubs aspirations.
I think they are going to see what the coaching staff can do with what they have, and rightly so, on paper they are far from being a poor side, but on the field they have at times looked woeful, not because they haven't won games but because, they have looked like they didn't care either way.
I set off this season hoping for survival and we did that , (despite some bad luck) , next season has to be one of improvement.

Good post, have to agree with all of that, also the game is becoming too sanitized now, you only have to touch a player and he gets a penalty, if he thinks he,s not going to get one, they go down and milk it, l don,t know wat the Canadians or Yanks will think of SL if it ever arrives there, they like their sport to be on the tough side, l used to laugh at gridiron, for being soft(padding helmets etc), but now the shoes on the other foot.
Bought my 2018 ST last Friday morning, by 2015hrs Friday night l was regretting it, ok i,m over it now. Will be at the GF next week, hoping for a Tigers v Cods final, but would not be at all surprised to see Rhino,s v Saints. Like Danril l have been looking forward to the end of season over the beginning, but then again l am optimistic re 2018.
Going to the WC, l think there is one other on here, goes to Lindley Lib, knows Kenny Ball, l will be there on Sunday, make yourself known.

at the time we signed ormsby im sure we were struggling for wingers... we even had foster on loan, remember him? ormbsy actually did ok too at the start, think he got a hat trick at warrington for us.. paul anderson made the signing permanent not stone.

we signed rankin to play in the halves with brough, unfortunately mamo then got injured, so he had to go to full back and did well to say he had just jetted in from across the other side of the globe and not played with team mates before... a good pre season and playing him in the halves could see him in an even better light.

how is ken davy lacking ambition? we are spending upto the cap not under it.

go to 5 games next season and you have got your money back on season ticket, cant complain at that!

Spot on post

We signed Ormsby to appease those moaning we 'let' Broughton go after he'd started well for Catalan.

This doesn't mean much. If it's like this season only half will actually be on a Friday.