I know which game (Still got it on DVD) what I was asking was which punch?

Just inside info. Unless it is being held close to the chest for secrecy.
But with what we have Murphy could go to full-back, and Ormsby to wing, he has the ability just needs him to knuckle down and get on with the job, he is a strong finisher.

That sounds perfect if we want to play championship in 2018

At the last HGSA meeting the question re FB were quite clear.

So we not going without the Bradford 3?

We may not need Hardaker but we certainly need someone, If you think we can go with the same squad and get different results , well good luck with that. There is only so much changing players round you can do, eg. Ellis backup Hooker perhaps ?

The idea is to keep trying to strengthen the first choice team, not just plod on with the same or get more mediocrity in from Bradford. The club needs to get away from that attitude, It's held sway for far too long at the Giants.

What stone thinks/ or would like to do may be irrelevant if we have no wiggle room on the cap. If we can't offload unwanted players(and why would anyone want players unwanted by the bottom team) then he may have no choice.

According to most, Anderson was the problem last year, not the players, now people are saying we need to completely overhaul the squad more or less, but it's not knee jerking?
So basically, last season,either the coaching, conditioning,players, chairman, MD, kit man, etc were to blame for our poor showing

I think the current squad can do much better with better coaching and being fitter which is what most were saying last season. I agree with your point about the Bradford 3 but in general up to the last 6 months most of the signings have improved the squad. I would bracket Ormsby in with these 3, I don't consider him any better than what we have. We brought 3 good players in part way through last season don't forget and I expect some more progress from the younger players, Roberts in particular. I expect a much better season for us, how good remains to be seen, but I don't think this year's top 4 are spectacularly better than the rest so a good coach, a return to proper fitness and the right attitude could see a return to the higher reaches. Think positive!!

Bringing a good full back in will be the difference between us making top 4 and finishing in the bottom 4 in my eyes.

I agree with most of that, and i have said all along It's as much about coaching as anything else, But there are positions where we need new players and fullback is one of them, IMO we need to replace Big Eorl if possible (just an opinion ) If money is as tight as some people think ( and I'm not saying they are wrong ) Then let the likes of Murphy and Ormsby fight it out for a spot on the wing, But we do need at least a couple of new players, If for eg Wardle goes we need a good replacement.