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| Quote Andrew J="Andrew J"There was a huge amount of reality dished out at the weekend wasn't there. How many, like me, thought 'if we drop into the middle 8s we will get out of it no problem'?
Not sure any of us envisaged how deep rooted the problems were. Rick Stone has been merely forced to window dress. I dread to think what his thoughts on the mentality of this group of players is.
I know some don't like it but let's let our frustrations out and I'm sure as hell frustrated.
Huby and Ellis are too fat, like Christmas puddings. Murphy confidence is on the floor and I feel for him as he's an honest lad. Wardle and Connor do not give a flying **** what happens. I'd throw Taai into that too. Not sure he can be bothered putting his knackers on the block as he's off anyway. Eorl has become a big fat old bugger who's moaned his way through the last 2 years. Ormsby was so bad at Batley it's inconceivable that he will play 1st team again this season. And 'Mr Wonderful' Danny Brough is all part of the problems that started in February with his off field indescretions.
Anybody want to add anything else?
And before I get slated, this is a forum, opinions are my own and this is the place to air them.
The hard part is that making these comments hurt. They hurt because I care more than the majority of our players.
If the feared reality happens, they will move on but we will still be here.
How Richard Thewlis has avoided any mention in my message is beyond me!'"
Well said. If we stay in Super League everything will be brushed under the carpet. Thewlis will still be responsible for Recruitment and Players contracts. Rick Stone,like Anderson will be told who will be signed. Nothing will change Brough will sulk and upset all and Ken will dose off, Oblivious of how the Club is being missed managed by his CO and Director.
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| Well I went to my first game in 1961 as a five year old and was lucky enough to see the Championship Final of 1962.
For those highs I had to put up with far too many lows and the swapping of my beloved barrier on the terrace side at Fartown firstly for Leeds road and then the John Smiths.
We've had some good times recently LLS, two challenge cup finals and the narrow defeat at Saints when the grand final beckoned.
We played enough Rugby in patches this season to sort of think that we'd be ok in the qualifiers.
However at Salford I watched the first of two horror shows and said to my mate at the end of the game we are going down unless something changes.
I don't blame Rick Stone the malaise was there and far too deep rooted for a 'quick fix' he must be as horrified as us when what looks a pretty good team on paper is so spineless and rudderless on the field.
The real ty horrible frustration on Saturday was actually when they suddenly started playing with 29 minutes to go and at 48-40 Leigh were starting to wobble it proved that with just some application in the first half the game was there to be won.
I can't see anything but three losses and derby's with Bradford, Halifax and Batley next season !!
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| Quote simonsays="simonsays"Well said. If we stay in Super League everything will be brushed under the carpet. Thewlis will still be responsible for Recruitment and Players contracts. Rick Stone,like Anderson will be told who will be signed. Nothing will change Brough will sulk and upset all and Ken will dose off, Oblivious of how the Club is being missed managed by his CO and Director.'"
What evidence do you have that thewlis is responsible for recruitment? Anderson was NOT told who to sign- only how much money is available from the cap- that's a managerial issue that no coaches deal with. Stone is NOT being told who to recruit.
I'm not sure how thewlis is being blamed for what's happening on the field. He's messed up with Connor and Mason in terms of not understanding the meaning of some of the rules on contracts- but it's the players alone who are responsible for application of their skills on the field. This team were winning games last year!
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| Isn't walking away akin to the spineless attitude allegedly shown by your players? They'll be all be gone at some point, maybe sooner, maybe later. In a year or two (hell, maybe even this weekend though I hope not) you could once again be watching a side that makes you proud.
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| Quote jools="jools"What evidence do you have that thewlis is responsible for recruitment? Anderson was NOT told who to sign- only how much money is available from the cap- that's a managerial issue that no coaches deal with. Stone is NOT being told who to recruit.
I'm not sure how thewlis is being blamed for what's happening on the field. He's messed up with Connor and Mason in terms of not understanding the meaning of some of the rules on contracts- but it's the players alone who are responsible for application of their skills on the field. This team were winning games last year!'"
Was it Stones decision to recruit Bulls fatties Ferguson,Clough and sick note Gaskell.? When Thewlis cocks up he is bullet proof and unlike the Players he is not allowed to be Held to account.????.
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| Quote jools="jools"Tbf brearley we've done ok in semifinals....'"
not cup semi finals, play off semi finals
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| Quote Andrew J="Andrew J"There was a huge amount of reality dished out at the weekend wasn't there. How many, like me, thought 'if we drop into the middle 8s we will get out of it no problem'?
Not sure any of us envisaged how deep rooted the problems were. Rick Stone has been merely forced to window dress. I dread to think what his thoughts on the mentality of this group of players is.
I know some don't like it but let's let our frustrations out and I'm sure as hell frustrated.
Huby and Ellis are too fat, like Christmas puddings. Murphy confidence is on the floor and I feel for him as he's an honest lad. Wardle and Connor do not give a flying **** what happens. I'd throw Taai into that too. Not sure he can be bothered putting his knackers on the block as he's off anyway. Eorl has become a big fat old bugger who's moaned his way through the last 2 years. Ormsby was so bad at Batley it's inconceivable that he will play 1st team again this season. And 'Mr Wonderful' Danny Brough is all part of the problems that started in February with his off field indescretions.
Anybody want to add anything else?
And before I get slated, this is a forum, opinions are my own and this is the place to air them.
The hard part is that making these comments hurt. They hurt because I care more than the majority of our players.
If the feared reality happens, they will move on but we will still be here.
How Richard Thewlis has avoided any mention in my message is beyond me!'"
i think taai has been one of our better players this season? and is he going for sure? not heard anything, his mate seb is here now too, both be off if we go down anyway
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| Quote ColD="ColD"Great being a fan isn't it, for most of us at all levels it's highs and lows - and there's always someone worse off than you. Don't think you will but even if you do go down it's not the end of the world, people drawing the line need to get over it and back the team they love.
And look on the bright side, if you are away in the MPG it could well be at the LSV as salfords ground isn't available'"
its still away from home.
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| Quote simonsays="simonsays"Was it Stones decision to recruit Bulls fatties Ferguson,Clough and sick note Gaskell.? When Thewlis cocks up he is bullet proof and unlike the Players he is not allowed to be Held to account.????.'"
exactly, whos signed the bradford 3? cant be stone and anderson sacked its thewlis! he makes alot of the decisions, prob ones like giving luke robinson another playing deal when he could hardly walk nevermind run, everybody loves robbo but to give contracts to mates is not how a sports club should be run, thewlis should walk and the whole culture needs to change at the club
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| Some people do spout some ridiculous untruths.
Thewlis does not sign players. He does the paperwork he doesn't make the recruitment decisions. He is involved in negotiations purely to ensure any offers mean we are within cap.
Anderson signed the Bradford three. His parting gift clearly.
And Taai is signed up for two more years (providing we stay in SL of course).
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| You've got the Bradford 3 now. We ain't having them back!
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