There needs to be significant changes in the way the club is run.

There needs to be significant changes in the mentality of the club.

There have been a number of on and off field decisions in recent years which range from poor to mind-bogglingly appalling.

There seems to be no accountability at the club.

Someone is responsible for us choking in the playoffs, someone is accountable for some hideous recruitment and retention decisions in recent years.

Someone is responsible for the Mason saga. Someone is responsible for the toe-curling sub-PMRC moral righteousnousness of the clubs statement in the wake of that verdict.

Someone is responsible for the club not kicking on affter the LLS win. Someone is responsible for the falling attendances.

Someone is responsible for the club keeping at least 3 players during the offseason who have subsequently left the club part way through the following season when all three could have left and been replaced.

There is no vision at the club, no ambition, no drive or at least that is the perception.

There are issues ingrained in the fabric of the club that should be obvious to anyone with two eyes. Treating 3 wins as a sign that all is well is as puerile as treating 3 losses as a sign of the apocalypse.

People do support the club, most people on here have supported it for a long time. They care about it. That's why they want changes.

There seems to be a mentality that cos we were poor 30 years ago we have to treat any small success as a major triumph. We have been a top 5 side for too long to hide behind our past any more. Beating Leeds should be routine, not an amazing thing or we're back in the land of issuing a cheap looking t-shirt cos we managed to beat Bradford again. It's no better or worse than any other team. Had we beaten London Skolars last night we would be in the same position we are now.

If not we may as well drop to the Championships and be a big fish in a little pond.

Where's the blown out of all proportion praise?

No my opinions haven't really changed meast, I still don't think Mr Anderson is going to make us into a great side, I have given you all my reasons for thinking that. We have had two or three really good performances and I'm as glad about that as you are but I haven't formed my opinion on the number of wins or losses we have had. The last two seasons have mirrored that pattern, A really good performance here and there amongst a lot of very poor stuff.
We are still very near the bottom of the league which I feel with the players we have , and have had, is not good enough, It's good to see things coming together a bit again, some of the players are looking much better, Cudjo's form for example improved no end during the last section of last season, and he is now beginning to look more like he did before Mr Anderson became coach, He's just one, there are others.

Over all the club seems to be going nowhere, and I feel he has his part in that along with other things and people. I know you don't feel the same way and that is fine as far as I am concerned, I am not going to slag you off, or call your views Dirge, nor am I going to get the Huff and take my ball home. I don't claim I'm right I just give my opinion, why people get so upset if it's not what they want to hear is beyond me, At the end of the day nobody at the Giants takes any notice of them ( yours or mine ) and we all want the same thing , we all want another trip to Wembley.

Well as I wrote the 'bus article' let's examine the point behind it.

For anyone who like me went to the game it was in most parts a shambolic undisciplined performance where every time we scored we manufactured a way of letting Cas back into the game.

We scored 34 pts more than enough to win the game had we completed our sets and not given away umpteen stupid penalties more often than not for our usual tardiness in the ruck area.

As the performance on the day was so 'amateurish' I can't see where it is unfair to ask questions about preparation and attitude as seeing elite athletes stood in a bus shelter less than two hours before a game roused my curiosity.

Fortunately I have a big car and stopped to see if the bus had broken down and to offer a lift if it was needed but no doubt to some on here I'm sure that was wrong !!

I kind of take you point I suppose but how far were they from the ground? And have won there last year too so why effect us this year but not last. I just think there's plenty of other reasons to a games result.

You are right there are a number of reasons why we lost I suppose the issue is if there are concerns about unity in the squad as some were saying due t.o the fall out over Ferres and Patrick being unsettling then it would be reasonable to assume that things that may suggest a lack of cohesion should be addressed.

In the end it may well be that there are other things that are more significant..

We shall see how the rest of the season pans out.