Ok arm chair supporter. Nice one.

the new system is better as winning the league is a massive advantage compared to the old system, I enjoyed watching us win the minor premiership, but most fans know that a couple of teams do rest players ready for play off footy, will it say that on the record sheet?...no, it will say we won it fair and square and to me that's all that matters

If you don't back up the LLS with a Grand Final win, it means nothing. And I will stand by that come 10th October.

We rested players for that last game

Does that mean we can say it wasn't important

This is a pointless discussion. Rugby league started when it started, not when Leeds started to win things. That said if the Giants can't win the GF I would love Leeds to win , being the only other Yorkshire side. To win the treble would be something to really celebrate, there is a difference though between celebrating and gloating.

it will always mean something to me, regardless of if what else, if anything else we win.

it's like your first born child, you might have 4 kids but your first is always something you remember fondly

Cant understand why you enter into dialogue with descendants of Dumbo !

.....and I was as gutted as any fan bout the result.

But more about the circumstances that led to it

Bottom line is :-
1 We forget that games last more than 75 mins - theyre 80 plus stoppages
2 We more than often cannot stamp our authority on games when we get in front -if we`d done that at Wigan we wouldnt have been having a discussion such as this

OK leeds went off the boil after the Cup Final and lost 3 games on the trot
It didnt matter a fig as they won the one that mattered - and more important to me we lost it !
8 points in front with 8 mins to go and they score 12 -think about it !

Refs -dont get me started ! But they`re what were faced with. Full time -and the standard is ****
The number of times Ive heard Mr Cummins say "I think he`s got that wrong" on Sky is frankly becoming boring but thats a separate never ending topic Against the recognised glamour clubs we HAVE to build leads that they cannot do anything about (ie the Warrington match) We were merciless -and thats how its got to be Cas did it against Leeds - but they also have a similar affliction!
Its hard reading I know and hurts

We won the LLS - but as yet we havent pushed on -and are still a "Nearly but not quite" team / club which for Ken must give him sleepless nights and even more grey hairs (or hes the patience of a saint )

Fortunately we are still IN the semi We proved in the past that in semis we often rise to the occasion
(Leeds at Odsal --Saints at Warrington ) So lets hope we do again - and carry the job through
We need to stamp it home that last Fridays history -and gone. Forget about it ! S--t happens - and theres two 80plus mins to sweat blood for glory Ken has done his bit and still is doing !The fans can do theirs and then its down to PA team selection and motivation We have the ability - just prove we can stay with the pace and PROVE weve stepped up to the mark and arent a "nearly team " any longer !

Its all down to us !

and plenty of time cummings gets in wrong! and that's with slow mo replays. the guys a buffoon

Granted both set of supporters have differing views of some calls during the game. But when Robinson dived over when Hall threw Hardaker a shocker of a pass on our try line......I think we can all clearly see Robinson knocked on and no try was the correct decision.

However after watching 2/3 replays Cummings was adamant that Robinson's hands never touched the ball.

...............and what we get are gamson prodegies that could win mastermind!!!

still - if you are happy with the standard of full time "professional" refereeing thats ONE satisfied customerll:

BUT as I said --thats another topic !!!

ps dont remember disputing robbos "notry" so can only assume youre just on here for
an argument and not constructive debate.

P.S. I don't recall replying to you or claiming that people were disputing Robinson's try.