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Quote: ThePrinter "Can easily be said when you look at the particular kicks in this game.....not the ones from previous games. Every time BJB's reaction to get over to them was vastly slower than what Hardaker would've done. Not sure what relevance the Leigh game has on this particular debate, did they get several 40/20's against Hardaker? So the struggle in that game wasn't exactly poor FB play.

Hardaker has played 3 times at FB vs Brough and conceded just one 40/20 at Huddersfield in 2012, when he'd only just taken over the FB role. Brough got 2 at Headingley in 2013 when Watkins played FB and 1 against BJB there in 2012.

So in three games vs Hardaker and he's got 1 40/20. Against BJB/Watkins in three games he's got 5 (technically 6 if you count the one bouncing off BJB's legs). Also in 13 games with Hardaker at FB this year, Leeds have only conceded one 40/20.....so the argument does hold more weight than you like to deny.'"


A few things wrong with what you've said there. We are talking about broughs kicking game at headingley. When we played you at hudds the last two games brough switched it about as you were expecting kicks so he played a running rather than a kicking game (that worked well also).
Seeing as hardaker hasn't played headingley (I'm assuming your statement is correct about who played there and when) you can't state he's done better because he hasn't conceded 40/20s there!
Brough would have adjusted his 40/20s accordingly had hardaker been playing there - or his game in general- so stating hardaker alone would have made a difference I'm not sure. Given we knocked on immediately after the second one in not sure what relevance 40/20s have to the outcome!

As for the relevance of the Leigh game on this debate, you stated we should be more worried than you as we couldn't put the ex champions, top of the league table team to bed away from home. I'm stating you couldn't put a team from the lower division to bed many of whom who are part time players with alternative full time jobs at home in front of your own fans.
- how is that less worrying.

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Quote: Ivor C&G Scarf "Ta'ai has been our most consistent forward throughout the season. If our other forwards had put as much effort in then we wouldn't be languishing in 6th place, we could well have been top. At this stage I am prepared to accept one blunder per match. However, when other forwards reach his commitment level, then I might not. [I do agree that he should be capable of playing it properly though.]

Why do people not complain about certain other players' PTB technique? One in particular regularly makes a hash of things but rarely gets criticised.

I know that this is a platform for people to air their views and opinions, but to say that we are only 4 points off the top and have won 6 out of the last 7, there's an awful lot of nagativity on here. [Waits to get berated for comment again.]'"


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Quote: raceman "What a hero Aaron Murphy is! Really put himself on the line last night. Broke his hand after 10 minutes and then played 70 Mins with the broken Hand.
That's true 100% fighting spirit.'"


murphy has a broken hand? good job we have cudjoe to come back in then!

moon was causing havoc, would not have had the same impact if cudjoe was marking him

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Quote: jools "A few things wrong with what you've said there. We are talking about broughs kicking game at headingley. When we played you at hudds the last two games brough switched it about as you were expecting kicks so he played a running rather than a kicking game (that worked well also).
Seeing as hardaker hasn't played headingley (I'm assuming your statement is correct about who played there and when) you can't state he's done better because he hasn't conceded 40/20s there!
Brough would have adjusted his 40/20s accordingly had hardaker been playing there - or his game in general- so stating hardaker alone would have made a difference I'm not sure. Given we knocked on immediately after the second one in not sure what relevance 40/20s have to the outcome!

As for the relevance of the Leigh game on this debate, you stated we should be more worried than you as we couldn't put the ex champions, top of the league table team to bed away from home. I'm stating you couldn't put a team from the lower division to bed many of whom who are part time players with alternative full time jobs at home in front of your own fans.
- how is that less worrying.'"


I'm not sure how I can't predict that Hardaker would've done better yet you can predict Brough would've changed his game accordingly if he was facing Hardaker. I think the stats show Brough would've had a trickier time getting those 40/20's against Hardaker.

And I agree you could put missing players in for both teams and say this and that would be different, but what I was initially replying to was how good Brough's kicking game was.....I just pointed out he had a helping hand from a woeful BJB.

Regarding the cup game. You had your struggles against Batley last year didn't you? Didn't stop you winning the LLS. A cup game, treated as a cup final for Leigh, a team we won't run into again this year.....not much relevance at all really, just like your match against Batley wasn't.

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Enough's enough now let's move on the game is over and done with.
I do have a question though, don't you guys rate BJB? I rate the guy and think he's always a danger to us when we play you.

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Quote: raceman "Enough's enough now let's move on the game is over and done with.
I do have a question though, don't you guys rate BJB? I rate the guy and think he's always a danger to us when we play you.'"


I rate him as a winger, but not so much a FB. He can be dangerous when running with a bit of space, but like on Friday.....he has to collect the kicks first to do that. Also defensively he's not a patch on what Hardaker does at FB.

So in summing up, his dealing with kicks (even when as a winger) isn't good enough, not the best defender, and not strong enough in he tackle when we have those get out of your own half sets taking in by your backs. Those negatives outweigh that he can be very dangerous on foot in space at times.

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