Lad makes a valid point, i still aint seen us play in a grand final, sadly ive seen Leeds play in way too many.

Playing in a GF isn't really the issue. Winning one is.

But at the start of those seasons who would have had Hudds to get to a GF ahead of Leeds? As has been said before, Hudds can only be described as chokers if they are actually losing to teams in play-off matches who they are favourites to beat. Basically, as with many teams, if key players are fit at the end of the season then the Giants will have a decent shot at anybody.

3 or 4 years ago we could only dream of getting within 2 games of the grand final., the fact that people now consider us chokers shows how far we have come in that time. But even if we did win the grand final we would still be getting put down by the usual suspects.

And I remember it wasnt too long ago that if you really, really wanted to find a team of chokers you went to Headingly. But that time stood them in good stead.