You may think there are no superstars. Other people may look at the likes of Brough, Robbo, Faiumu, Fa'alogo and O'Donnell + the likes of Big Eorl and Gerry and see much more than 'just hard working players'

The fact that people on here are pulling a TWENTY ONE year old to bits is shocking. He has had so much pressure on him this year following him getting the England cap and getting the giants out of jail twice in the playoffs. Massive things were expected at the start of this season from some. Show me a player who makes zero mistakes. Brett hodgson made more errors than any other player in SL but still got MOS- we have probably the youngest 3/4 line in SL, (I'm counting gilly as a back row) mistakes are bound to be made- when was the last time cudjoe needed to kick on a regular basis- He's bound to be out of practice. Personally I think leroys passing skills are wasted on the wing. Bit he lacks the confidence for FB. 4 or 6 for me.

Totally agree with this, can't we just get behind the WHOLE team instead of having a go at some of them. Get a grip people!!

Mental. You lot are like soccer fans, one loss and you are burning players in effegy.

A win this Sunday and you will be talking like the giants are invincible. Crikey. Get some perspective folks, and for some, come back to reality.

The likes of Eorl,Jerry,Brough,Robbo etc i would say have become better players under our coaching than they were at their other clubs...due to their willingness to work hard to get to where the coach wanted them !....they certainly weren't brought to the the club as 'superstars' of the game.

Plus Doof has also been hammered on here recently too ......the players who are getting bagged - ie Leroy (an England international, raised by the club from Junior level) Hodgson - (another ex international) Raleigh - (excellent clubman who has stuck at the club despite not been a regular) deserve a damn sight more respect than some of you lot are giving them !!!

I am more than happy with the squad we have at this club and i suggest to the people who aren't happy with what's happening here that you maybe best advised to find another club to support !!!

Pulling him to bits? - Bullsh*t. Check out recent match videos at fb..how often does he let the ball bounce? When does he ever tackle around the legs and when does he run the ball back fast and hard at fb? That in the play offs he showed great speed when put into space [uon the wing[/u is not in question.

With options available at fb and centre I would only consider leroy on the wing (but Hodg and Jerry should not be dropped atm). However I think Nathan B wil put him at centre for the French game.

What a joke. If you dare question a player then you should find another club

pathetic.

I have made some specific comments about Cudjoe. If you have evidence that he consistently attempts to catch bombs/ defends well and tackles well etc let's have it. have you ever since leroy put his body on the line in the way Brett H and Grix do so at fb (and they are haf his size) On the wing fine but elsewhere a potential liability.

Leroy puts his body on the line every week - just like every other Rugby League player..the point i'm making is we have a good squad , a good hard working squad so why the need to pull 1 or 2 individuals out of a succesful group ?

Oh and back on topic, one rumour i've heard is that where looking at Miles Greenwood from Hailfax...dunno how much there is in that !!

that is where we can agree to differ.

thought this was supposed to be about comings and goings? apart from griffin possibly going does anyone actually know of any new signings rather than arguing over leroys best position or lack of