I was merely pointing out that you would be better off doing the work you get paid for, if you want to trade insults I am sure there are plenty that will accomodate you, fortunately I will not be one of those hth.

I like what wigan are doing i have to admit, Our fans are fantastic and somthing like that would be brilliant. I for one would join such a organisation as i want to get a flag together myself, however i cant see such a thing happening with our club. However best of luck to you wigan fans great efforts so far.

One day some people may accept that the majority of our fan base are not loud, noisy, passionate, flag waving, singing,dancing ultras but more of the sit down and watch the rugby and applaud the tries and have the occasional moan type so trying something like this with our fans will more than likely be met with scorn rather than enthusiasm from the majority.

occasionally?

Rather than treating those who are trying to change things with scorn,
the more of the sit down and watch the rugby and applaud the tries and have the occasional moan type could just let them try to get on with it.

Daz isn't one of those people who sit down and watch the rugby and applaud the tries and have the occasional moan.

..............and I promise to let em get on with it!!

I wasn't meaning i am !!! far from it, those that know me will vouch for my 'enthusiasm', the point i was making was we have tried many times to get the crowd going but to no avail as we have seen many many times they just dont want to get involved !

I'm all for trying to get a bit more life into the majority of our supporters but i just feel Conorgiantsfan is fighting a losing battle with his campaigns...........i and many others have been trying for the last 20 years to achieve this.

I just saw all those comments about Fartown being 'like a curtain raiser' and I thought we really should make an effort, the days of having less home supporters than the away team are gone, aren't they.

I know your not a quiet one.

I just think that if Connor and some of the others are trying to get some excitement going we should encourage them. If only to drown out the miserable old giffer that sits behind me with his moaning and whining.

Ivor?