Thought he did OK there, winning the CC ( with a decent squad ) I am not claiming he is a good coach, what i am saying is not even N Brown or Mcquire would make Wakefield a good side, I think the coach is probably the least of their problems.

Exactly --and a coach cant do any better than the players at his disposal

Otherwise there would be questions asked about Mal Reilly --and are we saying hes a crap coach??
Given some of the squads weve had in the past - Id say that Alex Murphy made the most improvement ---but I digress

Back to Mr Kear - and whatever the arguments for or against --on that certain day -he selected the right combination / the right tactics / and motivated "little old Sheffield" to beat Wigan on centre stage -and you cant take that away!! Full stop

..................and did it again with Hull

Whatever hes done since - people could have a pop at some of the clowns we`ve had in addition to him without many answers !!

Success in something ike the Challenge Cup / FA Cup is rarely used to decide whether a coach is highly capable.

Stokoe winning the FA cup with Sunderland was a huge cup upset but noone really considers him a top line manager.

Macrae had built a very strong squad at Hull - not least with the leadership of Kearney. The victories over saints & Leeds were unexpected but not a major shock. By the end of a Challenge Cup winning season Kear had managed to 'lose the support of the players'. Hull suffered the worse ever play off defeat.

Kear is an okay coach. The wakey fans who continue to malign Griff and slag off Eorl are moronic.

If those 2 players were to go to Wakefield next year ,there fans would think all their Christmas's had come at once, They seem to produce some good players but are unable to hang on to them, The Giants have been in similar straits but have found a way out, It's up to Wakefield to do the same, I wish them luck

Kear has worked wonders at wakefield. This season has been tough, but any side who loses three players the calibre of brough, tronc and newton would struggle. He'd spent all pre season assembling a side that would improve on the previous year, only to have the heart ripped out of it by factors beyond his control. Anyone watching the demolition of leeds would agree that the side he had built was something special by wakefield standards, but unfortunately we didn't get to see the full potential. And its impossible to replace that kind if quality mid season. Finances now dictate the calibre of players we can attract, but with everyone expecting us to be whipping boys next season, i fully expect kear to do what he has done in the past. And thatis pull off a few surprises with a team of players that nobody else wants.

He will have his work cut out next year that is for sure. However, I don't think there's a coach out there who is better equipped to deal with that situation. They'll probably be favourites to finish bottom and he'll use that but the bigger problem is the franchise announcement IMO.

Absolutly bang on, I hope they get the new stadium cause without it in my opinion they will be finished.

I hope that it is also the panacea that the Wakey fans hope it is (and Cas with theirs)

I suspect it might not make a jot of difference...

I suspect there may be one half built stadium left to rot somewhere in the country come 2012.

This is the thing about the wakefield stadium. Has Sir Rodney done a 'due diligence' on their main anchor tenant? A club that has had a CVA with a chairman in an IVA that has faced 2 winding up orders from HMRC in less than a year! And would Trin be able to pay high enough rent if they were relegated? Building a 12000 capacity stadium for a semi professional team will be crazy.

Trin need the stadium being constructed to have a chance of a licence. Given the farce of Thornes Park planning permission and a promise will not be enough. Yet if the stadium is being built and they do not get a licence you are left with a white elephant...ridiculous.

You might think they will regret that "no ground sharing" missive from earlier in the season.