I guess it depends whether you trust the judgement of Nathan brown or Agar? We will make do with Brown's view. You can enjoy Agar's

The shed could be emptied a little, l would like to see Kirkmond in the , Gilmour, and Lolaisi as well

Kirmond is no centre.

he was a winger, now a second row, l say he is a great prospect for

Greame Horne; left a bottom-three club for a top-three club - bet he can't believe his luck...

Can't pass to save his life.

Danril, Bet he never packed down either , but he learn´t
he´s fast, strong, got good footwork, can tackle, young, fit, athletic, oh yeh
he carn´t pass

Packing down in a scrum in todays game is not a skill like knowing how to time a pass and having the technique to do it.

He has size, he's amazingly strong and has good feet for such a big man. He's not a winger any more, he's certainly not a centre and I very much doubt he sees himself anything other than a second rower.

Michael Lawrence knows how to pass, he can time a pass. He's been doing it since he was playing U11's. Kirmond does not have that ability and it's going to take more than a couple of training sessions to pick up those kind of skills.

I agree Kirmond is no centre and Gilmour should not be used in the centre either.

The centre positions should be covered between Lawrence Watuira and Lolesi who i did not include as a second row as he did not play there all last season.

I agree with then above although i do think Jammer did play some time at second row last year.

I know where you are coming from but he would be more effective as a second row running out wide and helping to create a gap for more skilful players to exploit. remmber Fatz's wobbly legs routine last year that set up a great try for his winger. Gilmour will be playing a similar role next season, runnimng out wide, running inside angles and giving tghe centres more options to go inside or out.

With Gilmour on one side and Kirmond on the other we will look defensively solid and have some pace in the second row.