In the game on Saturday Saints were miles better than us at slowing the play the ball down. They've been one the best at this for years. I must have missed all the other coaches complaining about them.

Very true. Whatever happens do not get on Gansons back it only makes him worse. do not boo or challenge his decisions it is counter productive.

We should be able to beat Catalans without worrying about the ref.

Typical Ocker, getting his excuses in early.

Actually, the slower PTB this season has ruined us. Our whole style of play during Superleague has been built upon speedy PTBs and a scoot out (Roby is excellent at this). One of the reasons we have stumbled this season is because we haven't been able to adjust as well as others to the slower PTBs. And actually we are quite rubbish at holding down. We get pinged for it almost every time we try it. But Potter has clearly worked on Saints since we last played you as we were a lot better at it last weekend than we have been all season. However, with you guys slowing us down and us slowing you guys down, most people found last weekend's match dull. That's what happens when a slower PTB is played. And Huddersfield have become the epitome of slower PTBs because you have adopted it as your trademark this season. Had you not done so, no-one would be referring to you for it. But it's what got you to the semi and to third place in the league. However, I'm not sure you'll be as successful next season because of the number of complaints from coaches about the tactic. Things may speed back up again next season and you'll have to rely more upon your attack play, which Brown has also improved.

Walters seems to be saying that he would like to see more of that attack play rather than the holding down. I don't think he is being at all negative about your team, and he acknowledges that Catalans also wrestle at the ruck. I think he is just reflecting what many coaches and most fans think: that we really don't want the game slowed down as that is making it dull. We want free flowing rugby league, which just doesn't happen when the PTB is as slow as it has been this season.

Tell us about form again...

LOL!

What I need now is a trombone sound, you know, that comedy type one that gets used to finish a joke...

Take my wife, please.

I keep taking her places but she keeps finding her way home!

B'dum tish [trombone sound

You're kidding aren't you? Saints have had a great defence all through Super League - it doesn't get much attention because they've always had a great attack - but part of a great defence is playing right up to the margins on slowing down the play the ball. No side bounces up as soon as the tackle is made, that'd be stupid, every single side tries to slow it down and always has. What Saints do well, and did well against us on Saturday, is to go into the tackle in a way that they wont get turned or put on their back - to play the ball as quickly as possible. What every team tries to do is counter that and play to the margins. Saints have been one of the best at it for years.

Maybe we could make SL a 9 a side tag rugby competition? It would be so free flowing and exciting. Hopefully the contact aspects of the game could be irradicated



When the Giants first started winning a few games Tony Smith was slagged off for daring to play a physical game plan. Now it is Nathan's turn.

A games rhythm is spoiled by excessive penalties - actual rule breaking - step forward the worst offenders ...Catalans.

The game is spoiled by violent conduct. Catalans have had 4 players banned this year. The Giants zero.

It's odd isn't it, the year that supposedly the PTB has been slowed down so much that it stops free-flowing rugby is the year we have played some of the best attacking rugby I have seen us play in Superleague?

Was watching the Try of the Season thing on the big screen before the Wigan game and we've scored some great tries this season and it didn't include some of the best we've scored IMHO. Like Brett Hodgson's in the semi-final. ATEOTD good teams, players and coaches should be able to break down defences without just jumping quickly out of dummy half and catching players off-side. These coaches need to look more closer to home for reasons why their sides lose matches.

Slow PTB is not Huddersfield's trade mark it's the excuse used by lots of embarrased opposition coaches !

The Fair play league at post 2 is a classic. Catalan are at rock bottom !

I think he's been sampling the local red before they've removed the antifreeze.