The new structure has changed everything, but ultimatly the more fans, the more money and more longevity

I hope my opinions arent misconstrued as criticism, they arent

Common sense, not negativity. That we would be we will never get more fans/sponsors etc because we never did and had been here before etc

Over that 30 year period :-

Edwards family
BskyB
JP McManus

To name but a few oh and the bank!!

The Glazers borrowed to buy Utd, then transfered the debt to the club, Utd as a business makes a profit, it has to, to pay the interest on the borrowing

We"ve got the most interesting and exciting season for years coming up.We"ve got a good side playing attractive rugby.The fan base is increasing.we"ve got an owner/majority shareholder who with the help of other board members have put their money into our great club.Who knows what the future holds,lets enjoy the ride and support our team

Steve, let's be clear here :-

The discussion is around sustainable clubs.

In an ideal world Leigh Centurions would be a world brand and sustainable lets be honest without Derek's investment.

The likelihood of us ever achieving this is slim to zero IMO.

You say Man Utd are an example of a sustainable sports club.

Yes over a decade in a different sporting sphere they have been making profits. I ask how does that look over a 30 year period , you know the answer. Will certainly be interesting over the next 5 years to!!

I'm absolutely delighted that one guy is the majority shareholder, as stated elsewhere we will go places we've not been in over 30 years!

If you want a happy local community club who are self sustainable turn left off the M62 and follow the signs for Spotland.

Whilst your there ask any Hornets fans would they want our ground, our team, our coach and our owner??

And as for what can happen if owners walk away get yourself down to Fratton Park and ask any Pompey fan would they like to be sustainable or would they like to win the FA cup and go belly up for a decade???

Last time I checked we aren't running a business it's a sports club and the 2 don't and never will go hand in hand in 99% of sports clubs!!

So thats a no then

Steve lets be clear here

The discussion is about sustainable clubs

While difficult to achieve, it should always be a priority, quite simply because it will increase income

Actually the original discussion was centred on your assertion we are a shoe in for promotion, and that somehow we were shafted by the RFL back in 2008/9/10

Your opinion as you are entitled to, just as others disagree

I'm just glad the clubs doing what I suggested 10 years ago

I guess we almost agree,

Sustainability should be an aim not a priority!

What I said is we are entering an era that will be better than anyhing we've had in 30 years. To be honest you can arguably say last year was better than anyhing we've had in 30 years so in my opinion we are already in that era!!

The fact promotion next season is available can only enhance this era!!

Happy for people to disagree that's what this forum should all be about. It is interesting the same half glass posters now are the same ones who told me our coach was a bad apple and. Would never be a coach..... Mmmm. I wonder what happened to those realists... Oh wait there's a few on this thread!!