Careful, you are only allowed to receive insults not give them.

Why do these 'debate' threads always end up in personal abuse?

I can hear the Mods getting their padlocks ready as we speak......

Pity - as the O/P does raise valid questions - it's just some people seem unable or unwilling to debate without becoming vitriolic in their argument!!

Ooh touchy.

So if you're already doing your bit what have you got against the PSG doing their bit? I think you have the totally wrong impression of what the PSG do, but seeing as I've already posted what they do and you haven't bothered to read it, it's not my fault if you've got hold of the wrong end of the stick.

No one has ever suggested that the PSG is the saviour of the club but as a group, we each do our own bit to help out just like the NSFG do - why do you have such a big problem with that?

I tire of trying to point out that the rationale behind projects like the radio station, is to get the name/brand of Leigh Centurions 'out there' beyond the confines of LSV, with the aim of generating extra revenue from sponsorship and advertising.

That implies we have a 'plan' to generate more income, from sources other tha our current Fantastically generous sponsors. Indeed, if you study the CV's of our most recent additions to the Board, you will see that they are both highly successful business people and have a wealth of major clients in their portfolios.

As for the two poor maligned accountants, I feel their role is being totally misunderstood. (Sorry Steve, this isn't all aimed at you - it's just convenient to post it all in one go) They are actively involved in looking at our current cost and income bases, with the objective of ensuring our budget is realistic and we don't over-spend on it. (we daren't do that!) More importantly, they are looking at the governance within the club - something that has been severely lacking in previous years - to ensure we comply with legal, financial and RFL guidelines. They are not actively involved in raising funds.

And, to end on a personal note, I would argue that the programme does make a contribution to the finances - it made around £10000 [sizePROFIT [/sizelast season, and is in line to do likewise this season. We can't afford to ignore anything that makes a reasonable profit, even if the work is being done by amateurs.

Its great everyone fighting over who does more!
WHere would the club be without, Trevor , the current board, LISA, the LOTTERY, TOUCHDOWN CLUB, PSG and all the other volunteers like DON etc who all help, and contribute to keeping the club going.
Anyone who has any sense can see all this silly bickering is getting the club no where.
I don't for one think that a ST is the answer neither,unless we are giving up on our dream of SL , as there are no ST's in SL as its not allowed.

So all these groups can meet and have their own little meetings whenever, but isn't it time we all sat down together and pulled together.

Any fan whether he pays his one pound a week to the lottery or the one who is a touchdown Gold member, or even the one that in the lottery, LISA and supports the club everyway he can, they are all important as eact other, this is IMHO of course!!!!!!!

Well said Lynda.

Sounds like a woman after a place on the board to me

Well said Lynda.

Thus thread has turned into an embarrassment.

I have read all the post on here with interest .First of all I would like to thank wholeheartedly the people who have saved our club from going under in fact can't thank you all enough Secondly I would think that the club has volunteers doing important things at the club because there is no money to pay for the said roles .

Correct Lynda. There are a lot of people trying their best to help.

There is also no reason for bickering and being personal, I myself have had heated discussions with Starbug in the past, but whatever disagreements we have had I have no doubt in my mind that he has the clubs best interests at heart.

I think that applies to pretty much everyone who has tried and has helped the club in whatever way they could.

The individual groups do need to set a date and all sit round together and have a proper discussion about what their roles are.

apart from only one or two "digs" i find this thread excelent because as i read it, there are a few people who are hard working, passionate and seem to have the time, ideas and ability to "make things happen". It does look to me that these same people are getting or are already frustrated at the descisions that are, or are not being taken. I read that as a possitive, because it shows they care or they think they have a stratagy that should or could be benefical to the growth of Leigh centurions. I think a "clear the air" or "organisation stratagy" meeting should be called including all these bodies (TDC LISA chair people Community Dept/Trust/Apprentices NSFG) to Synchronize their efforts to complement each other giving them a very big, fecking huge net to cast to feed the club for many lifetimes, but it does take Dialogue and i for one can not see why this shouldnt be achieved if the passion and belief on this thread is anything to go on .

Unfortunatly the club dont want to work with the Community Dept/Trust , it would seem