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| I dnt know about the sponsers but the players are having to pay for their own awards night.
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| I'll have to ask the same question again have we got any directors at this present moment? Maybe 1 of the more wealthy 1s would give us a short term loan to help us through this very tough period?
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| Just because we haven't heard anything 'official' yet, it doesn't mean that nothing is going on behind the scenes. We can all be assured that TB and the two 'active' directors are exploring EVERY avenue to try and get us out of the immediate predicament.
I still think that, if we can survive this, we have a bright future, with a lot of hard work, and the support that TB is 'enjoying' at the moment.
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| Quote: Starbug "Answer to the 1 st question , yes
Widnes with a fan base of 2,000 , are essentially identical to Leigh , not a criticism , but Steve O Connor would have possibly had second thoughts if those had been the circumstances , quite simply , we have to emulate you'"
Our fan base is more than 2000 mate.Look at the average gates and is considerably higher than Leigh, even though we have not been successful.We would have had another 1000 fans if was top 2 in the league.
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| Quote: OFFTHECUFF "Our fan base is more than 2000 mate.Look at the average gates and is considerably higher than Leigh, even though we have not been successful.We would have had another 1000 fans if was top 2 in the league.
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| Quote: Tipster Ste "Glad you cleared a few points up there mate. I just hope we havent missed anything out. Asking for fans to donate to a game that we didn't get to will only harm the club IMO. How do we expect fans to pay for season tickets when all the talk is we might not see 2012.'"
So your suggestion as to how we pay the players right now the money we owe them is what exactly ?
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| Quote: Tipster Ste "Disgraceful comment, only took us from bottom to top in 18 months, appointed a world class coach and increased gates by 25%. Ticked the box, the next 2 years were to consolidate and increase investment.
If we had got a golden ticket in 2014 does anyone think AT WOULDNT HAVE INVESTED MORE IN SL?? it's not hard to get into those SL play offs!!'"
So you expect somebody to pay over a million pounds a year into the club , just so you can watch them play in SL ?
What attendance level would we need to be self sufficient in SL and spend at the max salary cap and retain all our best players and coaching staff IYO ?
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| Quote: WHERESYERBALL "I dnt know about the sponsers but the players are having to pay for their own awards night.'"
doubt that it ll be sorted dont worry and their wages too.
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| Get a wealthy Director to pay them!! And i don't meen you Steve its a genuine point, or even Trevor he has a few million in the bank am sure he wouldn't miss it or is it just me who would glady give the players who have given so much in such testing circumstances their wages IF I had the money???!
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| And where are these wealthy Directors?
At some point any right minded investor will stop funding a business if there is little or no chance of seeing a return on the investment. Sometimes it is better to simply cut your loses.
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| Quote: peggy "And where are these wealthy Directors?
At some point any right minded investor will stop funding a business if there is little or no chance of seeing a return on the investment. Sometimes it is better to simply cut your loses.'"
Why do the uneducated keep refering to 'investments' - Sport isnt an investment its a passion that requires external income to balance the books. You decide how much you can afford to spend on your passion until you cease to enjoy the ride. Fans do it with ST etc, sponsors with advertising etc and directors do it because they want to.
Peggy cut your losses and do one luv.
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| Any sound business looks at advertisment and sponsorship as an investment in their company. They are running a business for profit, the exposure gained though adverts and sponsorship hopefully generates sales.
Do you really think that Nike sponsor an event, team or individual because the CEO has a passion?
Quote: maurice "You decide how much you can afford to spend on your passion until you cease to enjoy the ride.'"
Now that Arthur T has "ceased to enjoy the ride" where does that leave Leigh RLFC?
Perhaps if the club had been run as a business with sound investment principles then the loss of AT would not have been as catastrophic?
Instead of writting cheques on request for Leigh LRLFC AT should have run the club as a business, making himself and the other Directors accountable for the long term success of the business.
Investing in the future!
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| Quote: peggy "Any sound business looks at advertisment and sponsorship as an investment in their company. They are running a business for profit, the exposure gained though adverts and sponsorship hopefully generates sales.
Do you really think that Nike sponsor an event, team or individual because the CEO has a passion?
Now that Arthur T has "ceased to enjoy the ride" where does that leave Leigh RLFC?
Perhaps if the club had been run as a business with sound investment principles then the loss of AT would not have been as catastrophic?
Instead of writting cheques on request for Leigh LRLFC AT should have run the club as a business, making himself and the other Directors accountable for the long term success of the business.
Investing in the future!'"
Non SL RL and attractive advertisement opportunity are never likely to meet unless a owner has a link/passion eg Stobarts.
The basic principles of business, so lacking, are of course imperative but you will run a loss if you have aspirations and do not own your ground in this comp. The prudent will forecast shortfalls and have pro-active external income in place to meet most eventualities, and if things go well then it isnt needed.
AT has gone the business is being shaken, cash flow is terminal and we need income to get to a better place - either be part of the solution or do one, the past is gone and the future will be what we make it.
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| Quote: Starbug "much as I have the greatest respect for Arthur and his investment , he was taking us nowhere'"
But, according to Maurice, AT had "passion" sadly due to a lack of "investment" the foundations for the future stability of the business are not in place when they so easily could have been.
1500 fans donating £30 for two months sounds great but is not achievable.
Sounds to me like Maurice is still upset because none of his playmates in the LISA gang would play his game.
Quote: Starbug "I set LISA up to eventually become a trust but fans didn't want it and took the things are ok line.'"
Put that grudge down Maurice, you've been holding it for too long.
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