in fairness though, whats the point of travelling from your home in yorkshire, over to leigh, to make an even further journey to york??

you're looking at three hours on the road before kick off, and thats a non starter

OK Fred, Batley played Widnes, possibly their best crowd of the season? They usually get 4-500 home fans plus any away fans. Dewsbury crowds have been around 8/900 for the last season or two.

As for asking questions, can I say that in a statement i don't always expect an answer. If I say to my mate "Why the hell didn't he pass that ball?" I don't expect him to say "Ask the coach or the player themselves, they will be available in the bar afterwards, stop moaning and ask the right people".

Isn't this Forum for fans to discuss/moan/praise etc ? Why are we always spoken to like kids at school by one or two certain posters?

Fred,

With reference to what we can/can't afford to spend on players. There's an interesting feature in Sunday's programme, from Gareth Walker, who quotes interviews with Ged Stokes, (Whitehaven coach) Carl Hall, (Doncaster CEO) and Mark Sawyer (Dewsbury CEO). They argue that the days of big contract payments in the Championship are gone, and that there is a glut of players available, who are more willing to play for less. Maybe that's the way we have gone, maybe not, but the suggestion is that there is some relatively cheap talent out there, if you look for it.

Because Ivan sometimes certain people act like kids when a solution to a 'problem' is given, if you dont want an answer then dont ask the question, but dont shoot down someone who gives an answer that you dont like.

Like I said Alan recruitment is down to the coaching staff and the only way to get an answer is to ask them, thats what I do both in private and at LISA meetings.

Income not spending is the problem the talent available could possibly be out there but if you aint got the money to spend on it......

And Batleys crowds have consistently been over the 1200 mark for a few years now, Dewsbury was a bad example as they were up until last term a Div 1 team, who even then got around the 1000 mark, but both own/manage their own stadiums and have income steams from it that we do not.

Didn't we get rid of Mark Castle because he didn't want to move over the big hill?

No we let him go because he couldnt get to training because he couldnt drive and wouldnt move here.

if our first home gate is anything to go off,fax,barra,widnes,fev,toul will all get bigger gates than us this season and i would guess they dont pay a small fortune for the priviledge of playing home games. also revenue income from advertizments must be higher for these club they own or practically own there grounds. i thing we need to take a step back & have a reality check here,we've got a top chairman a top coach & a top ground.sadly its going to take time before we can compete with the top teams.hopefully that comes later this season when all the backs start clicking together[we know there not bad playersand we get our strong pack back. if not then its next season,let face it as leigh supporters we've all been here before.

I agree money is our problem but you are wrong about Batley Fred and if you look on the RFL website you will find the true figures there.Last season their crowd average was a long ways away from 1000.

Figures and OFFICIAL figures are not always the same Frank its like salary cap spending its what you tell them



And TBH I couldnt give a stuff about other teams crowd figures.

You would think they would know that Fred after they gave out the attendance at LSV against Wire and Wigan

Watched your last game last season v haven,your team looked ok.The playing of Paul at s/h is probaly your main problem an organiser he aint.At the Bulls it was Deacon who did the organising.Your team is crying out for a leader on the pitch.Paul should be s/o or hooker no way is he a scrum half.

47-14 against haven is ok