Never go around Leigh at all now. Pub trade is dying and the government doesn't give a rats ass.

If you're not an eating establishment you've got little chance of surviving nowadays.

All very true I'm afraid. Unless a pub serves food and gets a good reputation it will struggle. 8-10 pubs are closing each week in the UK.

One of the answers would be to reduce duty on alcohol served in pubs and make it more expensive buying it in the Supermarket and off licence. It would help to support the pub trade and also help to cut out teenage binge drinking. Sadly this is very unlikely to ever happen.

im very greatful 4 all these reply's, i remember when i worked there b4 we were in super league when we were in super league and after. When i was working in there leigh rugby not just centurions but east, miners leigh rugby union were the predominent drinkers in there if this cud be brought back it wud be great and i think all it wud take is a bit of community support from everybody(Drinkers in general, the teams mentioned and most of all i believe the local police who have a very difficult job as leigh is a rough town). All these teams still drink in leigh i see them all the time and one of them are always in the pub i currently have. I grew up in that pub working and i hate seeing it how it is id luv to restore it but if people dont have faith in the premises and the town in general why save it, but wud it be worth a try thats wot im asking?????? I wud luv it to be wot it was as a pub and as a town

heres my two penneth worth...


leigh arms gone for good i would imagine, theres been too many false starts in the last three years..

wetherspoons baffles me, its not that cheap anymore, yet their clientele think it is, cos most stay in there all night, and dont know any different

however, i feel this is the REAL problem...

a lot of the youngsters of today are not fussed about hitting the town, a good nights entertainment for them is pratting about on facebook all evening, or playing computer games......


also, if todays young 'uns have any disposable income, priority will be to top up their mobile phone

Your only chance with any pub is if you own it and can buy your ale wherever you choose.
Leigh arms could be a success IF you buy it and are free to run a quality real ale pub with character.
Was talking to a landlord a few weeks ago who was trying to buy his pub off Punch, he had calculated his ale cost would drop £2000 a week!!!!

Just like Chequers (sp) - that would be fantastic - but would people go?

The little italian (with good food) which opened for a couple of months (near to the G+D)soon had to close due to a lack of business

The problem is all the dipstix walking past when going to/from the restaurant.

didn't they close because someone did one with the takings?

when places shut and even when they dont shut its all about chinese whispers when somebody hear's something then passes to someone else to someone else and so on and so on. How many places in leigh are and have been rumoured to be shutting

I think both are excellent ideas.

However there's not much money to be made in the first (unless you can dip into funding streams, which can be difficult if it's a 'business' rather than a charity) and the second would have to have significant funding behind it, as it would need a long term PR plan which may well mean losing money at first to make money in the long run.

I suppose it depends on whether its freehold or leasehold

then again - a few years ago you'd have a busy pub on a fr, sat, and sun... now it's only really a sat night

leigh arms went down hill when darren took over at bliss, plus the smoking ban, recession

i wouldnt consider taking over a boozer, espeically in leigh

Indeed. It's location was the best, and worst, aspects of it. Always meant to go in but I got the impression that they hadn't decided whether they wanted to be a restaurant or just another latenight takeaway.

225/235k if memory serves me right, thats everything no ties ave seen spec on it also boundary up aswell think thats 260k but a lot more land and bigger premises.

Not a bad investment if it could be made into a car park......

Dont know whether that was the reason but we had 16 deposits for a 50th birthday party disappear!!