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| Quote: Milehighclub "I think the point your missing is we have a very young and inexperienced squad as whole and he's obviously been signed to add a bit of quality and depth in the key half back position but also to bring along our existing fine young talent like Kes, Riddy and the likes of Ward etc. waiting in the wings.
Why go out looking for another unproven young half back to take a punt on when we have some of the best young half backs in the game already in our ranks???
Its about adapting to the full time culture and environment and who better could we have as an example to our young halves than a man who's got a wealth of top level experience and is known as a consummate professional not to mention a fantastic kicker of a ball and all round top class player.
Makes perfect sense to me a leader and experience for the backs as Wilkes is for the forwards.
Welcome on-board Ben, best Leigh side since 82 this and adding going full time and adding this kind of experience its only going to get better!!!!'"
Not missing the point at all, and I haven’t done a check (I’m too busy ) but don’t we have quite a few players who’ve previously been involved with SL clubs so I assume a FT environment?
At what age do players become experienced? Riddy’s now what around 27 - 28 and one of a few who’s scored over 1000 points.
If BJ is going to be leader of the backs who we dropping Riddy, Kes, McNally, Kay? Or is one of them leaving?
If its about getting use to FT culture and advising the HB’s then perhaps we should have looked to strengthen the coaching in that area.
As I said I like him and I wish him well, just not sure where he fits in but then again who knows what we have planned.
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| There just aint any young good half backs around if they were SuperLeague clubs would be clamouring for them and if there are any they would cost an arm and a leg (Gaskell at Bradford is rumoured to be on £80K a year and he is hardly setting the game on fire). Plus we have two young half backs coming through in Ward and Pendlebury and one would think The coaching team would have Jeffries mentor to them.
Some are again falling into the trap Of judging players before they have pulled on a shirt for us, remember Stu Littler getting some stick when we signed him? I've said it before we are signing Jeffries to get us into SL NOT to keep us in, that will come later - how many bagged Menzies when it was rumoured we were going to sign him, and how many wish we had now?
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| He's signed up now and so has most of the squad for next season, whilst other teams will be scrambling around for their players, ours will be already gelled and training together.
Hopefully this will give us an advantage, in what will be a meaningful season.
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| Quote: glow "Not missing the point at all, and I haven’t done a check (I’m too busy
Kay is a winger now mate and wont be playing in the half back positions so we only had Riddy and Kes with Greg capable of playing in the halves.
The answers to your questions are in the official press release quote PR as follows:
Leigh Centurions Head Coach Paul Rowley said, "Ben is a very important acquisition for the Club going forward. This time last year with Liam Kay we had four bodies for three positions but since Liam has re-invented himself as a winger, it was important that we had cover and pressure the players holding down the three spots. We appreciate the players that we have got but we all learn from new ideas and Ben is highly respected at the clubs he has played for. Many other clubs were interested in him and Ben still has plenty of mileage left in him. He is a very fit and accomplished player and there are 101 positives with his signing."
Ben had good offers from rival Championship clubs and SL return options but chose the most progressive club in the country LEIGH CENTURIONS.
Derek and Paul worked very hard on this one and the negativity only seems to be on this board the general feedback has been fantastic.
Cheers
Andy
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| I welcome Ben as a Leigh RL player.
I would be more inclined to congratulate the club on a top signing if he was a 34 year old half back currently playing Super League. As it happens and I am obviously looking in the wrong place, i can not find any reference of him on a Rugby League field since 2012.
I am usually the first to criticise club's who go down the route of signing over the hill, aging Aussie journeymen on one last big packet, so I only hope Ben has still got the same desire to give his all for Leigh as he did for Wakefield a few years ago in SL.
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| Quote: Harold Rigby Jnr "I welcome Ben as a Leigh RL player.
I would be more inclined to congratulate the club on a top signing if he was a 34 year old half back currently playing Super League. As it happens and I am obviously looking in the wrong place, i can not find any reference of him on a Rugby League field since 2012.
I am usually the first to criticise club's who go down the route of signing over the hill, aging Aussie journeymen on one last big packet, so I only hope Ben has still got the same desire to give his all for Leigh as he did for Wakefield a few years ago in SL.'"
He's been playing in the Newcastle league in Australia.
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| Never mind this season,next season is the really big one with the carrot of sooopa league being dangled in front of us.the more experience in the squad of top level rugby can only be of benefit.As for age its just a number,im sure PR and the coaching staff will have assessed him,if its good enough for them its good enough for me.we are all entitled to our opinions,and personally I think its a great signing.
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| Quote: Leyther_Matt "He's been playing in the Newcastle league in Australia.'"
Can you find any record of him taking the field? Because in the link I posted earlier in this thread he hasn't played 1st grade for the club we are reported as signing him from.
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| Quote: SRW1996 "Kay is a winger now mate and wont be playing in the half back positions so we only had Riddy and Kes with Greg capable of playing in the halves.
The answers to your questions are in the official press release quote PR as follows
I just say it how I see it, good bad or indifferent I’m just voicing an opinion, if you take that as being negative then so be it, I never said he was a ‘bad’ signing I said he seems a strange choice, especially bearing in mind his age and if he’s just for cover.
As with all signings some turn out to be great (as I hope this one does) others not so, only time will tell.
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| Quote: rob_a "Can you find any record of him taking the field? Because in the link I posted earlier in this thread he hasn't played 1st grade for the club we are reported as signing him from.'"
.....no.
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| Everyone is entitled to their opinion and also to express it on this Forum.
However I suggest it must be more than a little discouraging for the likes of Paul and the BOM to be reading some of the negative stuff that is appearing around actual and even potential signings.
Paul and Derek are clearly busting a gut to find suitable players that are a good fit to take the Club forward at a price that fits the business plan.
We have to accept that there is always a risk in taking on any new employee in any type of business and it is impossible to get recruitment 100% right on every occasion.
In my view we need to trust in their skills to, on most occasions, identify the right players and to secure their services on reasonable terms. I would suggest that Paul's record to date in both player selection and player development is very good and that he and the BOM need and deserve the same level of support as we are currently giving the team that Paul sends out onto the field.
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| Quote: PlayTheBall "Everyone is entitled to their opinion and also to express it on this Forum.
However I suggest it must be more than a little discouraging for the likes of Paul and the BOM to be reading some of the negative stuff that is appearing around actual and even potential signings.
Paul and Derek are clearly busting a gut to find suitable players that are a good fit to take the Club forward at a price that fits the business plan.
We have to accept that there is always a risk in taking on any new employee in any type of business and it is impossible to get recruitment 100% right on every occasion.
In my view we need to trust in their skills to, on most occasions, identify the right players and to secure their services on reasonable terms. I would suggest that Paul's record to date in both player selection and player development is very good and that he and the BOM need and deserve the same level of support as we are currently giving the team that Paul sends out onto the field.'"
The club/BOM/PR cannot expect every decision to please every fan, I find this a strange signing but could turn out to be a master stroke and hopefully it will be.
This is an unofficial forum so if the BOM do not want to see peoples honest opinions, don't read it, they or other fans who back the club no matter what need to realise that opinions that differ to their own are allowed to be expressed.
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| Quote: Leyther Always "The club/BOM/PR cannot expect every decision to please every fan, I find this a strange signing but could turn out to be a master stroke and hopefully it will be.
This is an unofficial forum so if the BOM do not want to see peoples honest opinions, don't read it, they or other fans who back the club no matter what need to realise that opinions that differ to their own are allowed to be expressed.'"
Agree 100%
Some think it's a terrible signing, some think it's a brilliant signing, some don't really know what to think! This is what makes following a sports club interesting.
Surely, though, the BOM and PR have enough confidence in their own ability not to have to try and justify the decision.
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| As do the 'people' who back the club (then again one would think that all of us 'back the club' thats what fans do is it not?) are allowed to voice their honest opinion (are they not all HONEST?).
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| Well said Leyther Always I love listening to everybody's views it's what makes this forum so good. People fall out, they agree to disagree they call each other,and they even go as far as to say they are not coming on the forum anymore. But one under lying thing that runs through all there posts is that they love Leigh Centurions. That my view.
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