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Quote: Bigtimeleigh "I agree there is still cons but I don’t we could replace either with better ATM, and do you not think in time they can be what we need? Despite for me doing a good job now?'"


To be honest, you said you had only seen Sammut play twice. I don't think you can make a judgement on just two games. He can kick any team all over the park, and kicked us all over the park many a time. On form he is unplayable.

Thats the difference as both Reynolds and Hutchison cannot step up to that level,their play is predictable, therefore playable. Their partnership is just too, two dimensional.

Will they improve? You have to look at the facts as Sunday showed, they are stuck in their ways.

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Quote: atomic "To be honest, you said you had only seen Sammut play twice. I don't think you can make a judgement on just two games. He can kick any team all over the park, and kicked us all over the park many a time. On form he is unplayable.

Thats the difference as both Reynolds and Hutchison cannot step up to that level,their play is predictable, therefore playable. Their partnership is just too, two dimensional.

Will they improve? You have to look at the facts as Sunday showed, they are stuck in their ways.'"


Well Hutchison was first choice NRL 7 until his injury - so it’s pretty clear he has the ability to step up to a far better standard than Champ rugby don’t you think
Jury out on the levels Reynolds can reach but he’s deffo improved this season

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Quote: atomic "To be honest, you said you had only seen Sammut play twice. I don't think you can make a judgement on just two games. He can kick any team all over the park, and kicked us all over the park many a time. On form he is unplayable.

Thats the difference as both Reynolds and Hutchison cannot step up to that level,their play is predictable, therefore playable. Their partnership is just too, two dimensional.

Will they improve? You have to look at the facts as Sunday showed, they are stuck in their ways.'"


They wont turn into Sammut, Ford, etc... But as we've seen, their play will improve if the players around them perform better. We're not going to sign a new half back this month, so we need some front rowers to step up to give them the sort of platform they need.

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Quote: Montyburns "Been told that if we make it into Top 4 there will be some new signings to come in'"


We wont be in the top 4 unless we get some fresh energy the lads are gassed. unless we get some decent middles we are done.

Chicken & the Egg.

This time last year KR were bringing in Masoe, Carney ETC

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Quote: Binosh "We wont be in the top 4 unless we get some fresh energy the lads are gassed. unless we get some decent middles we are done.

Chicken & the Egg.

This time last year KR were bringing in Masoe, Carney ETC'"


I agree,for me the CC was always going to be too much,but anyone who say's it generated a bit of money,well fine,bring some middles in with it.

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Quote: ColD "Well Hutchison was first choice NRL 7 until his injury - so it’s pretty clear he has the ability to step up to a far better standard than Champ rugby don’t you think
Jury out on the levels Reynolds can reach but he’s deffo improved this season'"


Yes and junior kangaroo. Having the ability and actually doing the job are two different things. Reynolds with the expericence he's gained at both levels should be ripping this league up now.

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Quote: LeythIg "They wont turn into Sammut, Ford, etc... But as we've seen, their play will improve if the players around them perform better. We're not going to sign a new half back this month, so we need some front rowers to step up to give them the sort of platform they need.'"


No very true they won't turn into them. But the passing at times from both of them is so poor,it makes the forwards look poor. Most are suicide passes stood still.

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Both are great behind a dominant pack, on the front foot both can dictate play but we aren't winning many games in the middle.

When you are winning the ruck in the middle you can play shape and get overlaps like Castleford do so well.

There have to be players out there who need game time.

Warrington-Dom Crosby
Salford-Ryan Lannon
Castleford-Gadwin Springer

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Quote: Binosh "Both are great behind a dominant pack, on the front foot both can dictate play but we aren't winning many games in the middle.

When you are winning the ruck in the middle you can play shape and get overlaps like Castleford do so well.

There have to be players out there who need game time.

Warrington-Dom Crosby
Salford-Ryan Lannon
Castleford-Gadwin Springer'"


The only player dictating play is dummy half. Theres nowt from the halves.

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I think criticism of the halves is harsh. As said above the halves need the pack to provide the platform, when they have we have done really well. Look at Drinkwater behind the massive Catalans pack, he looks a world beater, never saw that at Leigh. I know it is not necessarily part of the halves game, but our get through so much work both taking on the line and defending and to be fair Ben's tactical kicking has improved. We need an injection of energy in the middle, Baldwinson was v disappointing - I think Gladwin Springer is a great shout.

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Quote: Markski55 "I think criticism of the halves is harsh. As said above the halves need the pack to provide the platform, when they have we have done really well. Look at Drinkwater behind the massive Catalans pack, he looks a world beater, never saw that at Leigh. I know it is not necessarily part of the halves game, but our get through so much work both taking on the line and defending and to be fair Ben's tactical kicking has improved. We need an injection of energy in the middle, Baldwinson was v disappointing - I think Gladwin Springer is a great shout.'"


Totally agree.

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Quote: Markski55 "I think criticism of the halves is harsh. As said above the halves need the pack to provide the platform, when they have we have done really well. Look at Drinkwater behind the massive Catalans pack, he looks a world beater, never saw that at Leigh. I know it is not necessarily part of the halves game, but our get through so much work both taking on the line and defending and to be fair Ben's tactical kicking has improved. We need an injection of energy in the middle, Baldwinson was v disappointing - I think Gladwin Springer is a great shout.'"


But Catalans pack hasn't changed,the halfback has.

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Quote: Binosh "We wont be in the top 4 unless we get some fresh energy the lads are gassed. unless we get some decent middles we are done.

Chicken & the Egg.

This time last year KR were bringing in Masoe, Carney ETC'"


Surly though this time last year KR has assured they were going to be in the top 4 and could spend accordinglyc in our position it would be risky to take On a higher wage bracket. Surly it is better to get into the top 4 which this team is more than capable of, then go from there. The only way we could get players now would be if we had the financial backing regardless of Where we finished and Derek has stated the perhaps he can’t afford to back us outside the top 4.

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Quote: atomic "To be honest, you said you had only seen Sammut play twice. I don't think you can make a judgement on just two games. He can kick any team all over the park, and kicked us all over the park many a time. On form he is unplayable.

Thats the difference as both Reynolds and Hutchison cannot step up to that level,their play is predictable, therefore playable. Their partnership is just too, two dimensional.

Will they improve? You have to look at the facts as Sunday showed, they are stuck in their ways.'"



Perhaps..... but if summat was so quality and highly ratdd why did he remain at Workington for 18 months before getting his move, and London’s results on the large against the better champ team said would suggest he struggles against better opposition. Something which after the “settling period” shall we call it, Ben and drew haven’t done really. Even if people think there performance on Sunday was so so bad. Surly drew will continue to go from strength to strength as surly being JR kangaroo captain and getting in the NRL team Of the year is more than having the ability and actually putting it on show?

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Quote: Bigtimeleigh "Surly though this time last year KR has assured they were going to be in the top 4 and could spend accordinglyc in our position it would be risky to take On a higher wage bracket. Surly it is better to get into the top 4 which this team is more than capable of, then go from there. The only way we could get players now would be if we had the financial backing regardless of Where we finished and Derek has stated the perhaps he can’t afford to back us outside the top 4.'"

No, Derek has committed to the cause after the Leeds game. He says he has been re-invigorated by the team and the fans and is back in it for the long haul whether we make the middle 8's or not. He is actively looking for additions for the squad.

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