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Quote: GUBRATS "As I put , more a way of getting out of his commitments to London without losing too much face , he realised that London Broncos just didn't have a SL future , most likely still don't'"


Still amazes me that the sport couldn’t build on the decent crowds at Fulham. A couple of rival teams in centre of London would have got our sport to stage.

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Quote: GUBRATS "Financially from his point , a ' no brainer ' , but it would most likely have seen us playing in League 1 as TWPs ' feeder ' club

You think that's a better future for us than our current situation ? , tells me ALL I need to know about your love of LRLFC'"


They Only came up with Toronto after this , anyway its all history now whichever side you believed have both left the sport so time to move on

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Quote: Peter Kay "They Only came up with Toronto after this , anyway its all history now whichever side you believed have both left the sport so time to move on'"


' They ' told you this ?

I didn't realise you and Mr's Perez and Argyle were on speaking terms

It would have been a short cut to SL , invest in Leigh , attain promotion , then move franchise to Toronto , reapply Leigh into League 1 to be run as dual reg reserves , thankfully Derek isn't as stupid as you

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Quote: GUBRATS "' They ' told you this ?

I didn't realise you and Mr's Perez and Argyle were on speaking terms

It would have been a short cut to SL , invest in Leigh , attain promotion , then move franchise to Toronto , reapply Leigh into League 1 to be run as dual reg reserves , thankfully Derek isn't as stupid as you'"


Obviously more paranoid though

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Quote: Peter Kay "They Only came up with Toronto after this , anyway its all history now whichever side you believed have both left the sport so time to move on'"


Glad you now recognise the past is the past and should not be constantly dragged up to score petty points on social media , I look forward to you following your own advice

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Quote: GUBRATS "Glad you now recognise the past is the past and should not be constantly dragged up to score petty points on social media , I look forward to you following your own advice'"



Its you lot that keep dredging it up

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Quote: Peter Kay "Obviously more paranoid though'"


The ability to recognise the probable implications of your decisions isn't paranoia , it good business and common sense , unlike some , who believe any old bull they are told , then repeat it on here

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Quote: Peter Kay "Its you lot that keep dredging it up'"


No , you replied to harold when he was outlining actual circumstances of players leaving in response to Mish's post about our recent ; past ' and how that affects her support for the club

You then started raking up other ' past ' issues

it is essentially all you do , get over it

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Quote: GUBRATS "No , you replied to harold when he was outlining actual circumstances of players leaving in response to Mish's post about our recent ; past ' and how that affects her support for the club

You then started raking up other ' past ' issues

it is essentially all you do , get over it'"


No he raked them up

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Quote: Harold Rigby Jnr "So if I am reading this correctly, you no longer support Leigh RLFC due to its current custodian? I assume from that then you no longer come and watch the team or support the boys in the shirt ?

Whilst I respect your view, it is also a 2 way street. I would be inclined to understand what you felt when say.

Paul Rowley, substantiated the Toronto job rumours and walked out on his contract , 7 days before the season was about to commence leaving the club and team without a coach. Or say,

Ryan Brierley engineering a move away whilst contracted to the club, at a time when he was it's only recognised fit half back, forcing Ridyard to play with broken ribs, or when,

Bob Beswick, who Derek agreed could move to Wigan for sentimental reasons in return for a nominal transfer fee,declared himself unavailable for team selection the remainder of his 12 month contract due to injury, when Wigan refused to pay the fee, (unlike Derek,who paid Warrington to bring young Highams home) Or when,

Jake Emmit who pleaded for a release from his Leigh contract for a once in a lifetime experience to travel the world, which Derek agreed to, only for him to subsequently sign for Toronto.

I could go back through the lengths of time, but it's Leigh RL I support, the boys on the field, not Derek, not who is on the board, not Jack Hilton, Not Brian Beaumont, but the boys wearing the shirt of Leigh RLFC at 3pm on any given Sunday.'"


Harold you're quite right, at this moment in time I no longer support the club as I can't separate the owner from the club and nothing in this world would allow me to support a man who caused so much damage to so many people, who went out of his way to destroy the reputations and mental health of his ex employees. Sport isn't THAT important to me I'm afraid. I'll always be a Leigh supporter, I'm just not a fan at the moment.

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Quote: GUBRATS "Leigh RL are only ever going to be sustainable with 6/7,000 + attendances , in fact it is 10K if the truth to be told

So the question is , how do you get to that level of support ?'"

Well, to answer that question, our last SL season achieved an average circa 6,700 across all SL & Q8's fixtures so not far off 7K, approx 1,300 to 1,400 behind Catalans & bettering 4 established SL Clubs, all this despite finishing 11th.& having a terrible season end.

I would say that an 8k to 9k average is not inconceivable if the Club had even a mediocre sustained presence in SL, something akin to that of Wakefield I think would achieve that if the marketing was much improved. Success however relative brings in the crowds, a good Leigh team can achieve a higher average season attendance than Salford, Wakey, Widnes & Huddersfield if the Club is run professionally of that I have no doubt.

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Quote: mish "Harold you're quite right, at this moment in time I no longer support the club as I can't separate the owner from the club and nothing in this world would allow me to support a man who caused so much damage to so many people, who went out of his way to destroy the reputations and mental health of his ex employees. Sport isn't THAT important to me I'm afraid. I'll always be a Leigh supporter, I'm just not a fan at the moment.'"


Fair enough Mish, it is a shame a fellow Leigh supporter feels this way right now, but I appreciate it is your view and you are entitled to it.

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Quote: Harold Rigby Jnr "Fair enough Mish, it is a shame a fellow Leigh supporter feels this way right now, but I appreciate it is your view and you are entitled to it.'"


H, I will continue to support the club as many will. But we now have an owner not willing to support in his words an "untenable" position. Yet he is still willing to take a back seat and not spend a penny now.

How can Leigh survive this one? Without any financial backing? Short term fixes are a proven point. What's on the cards for long term yet again!

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Quote: atomic "H, I will continue to support the club as many will. But we now have an owner not willing to support in his words an "untenable" position. Yet he is still willing to take a back seat and not spend a penny now.

How can Leigh survive this one? Without any financial backing? Short term fixes are a proven point. What's on the cards for long term yet again!'"


Why is it always necessary that any owner is obligated to inject cash into a club ?

Yes I agree that we rarely see any long term plans which is very frustrating , buts that's unfortunately where we are

What long term actions would you like to see ? , and with what aim ?

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