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| Quote: SRW1996 "Good question and these are the kind of questions that need to be asked in order to develop a plan.
My answer would be yes though how it all would work is fine detail.
I was looking to gauge intrest and see if there were sufficient intrest to peruse it.'"
Fans will pay what they can afford each year be it £50,£100 or thousands, just cos someone can pay more should mean they're more important
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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
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| Quote: j.c "Ive seen the film.
It seems to me this is the travelling friend,grainey,coffee,coleman,freer model being sold as a fans run club,still its early days.'"
Not forgetting Blakely, Beaumount and Thomas
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Get LEIGH outta wigan: |
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| Quote: Starbug "Not forgetting Blakely, Beaumount and Thomas'"
Yes them as well
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: j.c "Yes them as well'"
I'll leave this alone now
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| Quote: j.c "I'm not having ago mo,i'm just asking questions,i just want to know which fans are included and which are excluded.
If we are talking about a proper fans run community club then surely we need to be looking at the 10s of thousands of households in this side of the borough and all the businesses,not just the usual fan base'"
I took your question as a constructive one mate.
If I'm 100% honest I'm not coming with all the answers or as some kind of hero nor is maurice I don't believe from my point of view it's about exploring possibilities and seeing if this is viable or not.
I've received PMs from people I think have the right intentions for the fans, club and town and this is what's needed if it ere to happen it needs to be fan focused and fan driven but also utilising skills of comitted and professional commercial minded buisness people.
Like I've stated I don't want to be a RL club director or owner but would if voted for by fans invest both finance and acumen if the project were right.
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| Quote: j.c "Fans will pay what they can afford each year be it £50,£100 or thousands, just cos someone can pay more should mean they're more important'"
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe anyone said anyone was more important than anyone else?
Every fan is as important as each other every investor would be equal some would invest more than others but the goal and end target would be shared by all.
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| Quote: SRW1996 "I took your question as a constructive one mate.
If I'm 100% honest I'm not coming with all the answers or as some kind of hero nor is maurice I don't believe from my point of view it's about exploring possibilities and seeing if this is viable or not.
I've received PMs from people I think have the right intentions for the fans, club and town and this is what's needed if it ere to happen it needs to be fan focused and fan driven but also utilising skills of comitted and professional commercial minded buisness people.
Like I've stated I don't want to be a RL club director or owner but would if voted for by fans invest both finance and acumen if the project were right.'"
Trust me i'd like you to be successful with this venture as the current model clearly isn't working for all of us,although watching the miners hasn't been a bad alternative
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| Quote: Starbug "I'll leave this alone now'"
There was some good times ste but i dont think that model works long term.Time to try another one now
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| Quote: mr. chairman "Give the guy a chance , he's trying to help . He's been on here all day answering questions . Do any other directors do that except starbug , I've been sussing him out all day and to be honest he sounds genuine and a decent bloke . Time will tell but at least he's on here and as never jibbed a question . He's looking for help and answers , can't blame him as he is only doing his homework before he commits'"
Thanks Keith.
I may be nieve and obviously don't know what's happened in the past but I am a firm believer that the past is the past and we need a new way forward if we are to break the mould.
Im not someone who's hiding behind a username either as everyone who has Sent me a message now knows who I am in return and if enough people want something then things could happen but I am just getting a feel at this stage as to if enough people want it or not.
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| Quote: mr. chairman "Give the guy a chance , he's trying to help . He's been on here all day answering questions . Do any other directors do that except starbug , I've been sussing him out all day and to be honest he sounds genuine and a decent bloke . Time will tell but at least he's on here and as never jibbed a question . He's looking for help and answers , can't blame him as he is only doing his homework before he commits'"
Your right and apologies
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| I've been reading this thread with interest and whilst I applaud SRW1996 and believe his intentions are honourable, I think it would help matters if he made himself known to all. I appreciate others already know but the 'ordinary' prospective investor won't, so perhaps he should make himself known so that these people can decide whether to trust him or not.
I'd really love to see something like this for the club but TBH I wouldn't give it 6 months before everyone starts moaning and bitching and falling out about every decision that's made. Also, would the new investments be enough to pay for a new CEO and all the other staff we'd need (most of which we currently get for free).
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| Quote: mr. chairman "They do want it believe me , it's just that they have been had over too many times in the past with people who promise the earth then vanish into thin air . The club needs a leading figure and a strong board with a winning game plan quickly before its too late , so the fans had better start listening'"
Thanks again Keith.
Could I just state at this moment in time I have no official connection to Leigh Centurions or it's Directors.
My views have been formed on what I have seen as both a fan for a number of years and more recentley as a sponser and also having been a guest of the club at games in the last couple of months.
I have not in my opinion divulged any Infomation which I should not have on a public forum but being an honest forthright person by nature i felt this thread started by someone else by the way could enable me to see if enough serious intrest could be generated to at least take things a step further into face to face discussions to see what if anything is possible along these lines.
Incidentally I thought with me having no connection to any board member past or present or having never been involved in any capacity at Leigh it would be viewed by fans as a positive.
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| Quote: j.c "I'm not having ago mo,i'm just asking questions,i just want to know which fans are included and which are excluded.
If we are talking about a proper fans run community club then surely we need to be looking at the 10s of thousands of households in this side of the borough and all the businesses,not just the usual fan base'"
Inclusive is the way for me but one vote per share is essential
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| People will pay 50 quid for a certificate saying that they own two feet of woodland in the Scottish highlands and they get to call themselves a Laird or Lady. Surely having a stake in your own club, no matter how small and apparently worthless on paper, would be far more appealing?
In short, count me in.
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| Quote: mish "I've been reading this thread with interest and whilst I applaud SRW1996 and believe his intentions are honourable, I think it would help matters if he made himself known to all. I appreciate others already know but the 'ordinary' prospective investor won't, so perhaps he should make himself known so that these people can decide whether to trust him or not.
I'd really love to see something like this for the club but TBH I wouldn't give it 6 months before everyone starts moaning and bitching and falling out about every decision that's made. Also, would the new investments be enough to pay for a new CEO and all the other staff we'd need (most of which we currently get for free).'"
Firstly in response to who I am:
Andy Mazey
Managing Director
S R Waite Electrical Contractors Ltd
In response to your second question personally i believe Trevor Barton is an asset but is lumbered with an old dead horse he's flogging like mad. I also believe alll the people who are working for nothing are the lifeblood of the club and the cornerstone of its future and I commend every single person whatever they do whoever they are there wouldn't be a club without you all . These people would be required more than ever and would even own a part of it if they chose.
Ive not come on here slagging anyone off or calling out sack the board etc I just believe there could posibly be another way if enough people want it enough and it would mean a break from the norm which has never really worked and I don't think that's unfair to say?
I did express an intrest and looked to see if i could add value to the existing set up however im not a billionaire with money to throw away so i told Trevor I'm not willing to invest in the club under its current structure for reasons I can't and wont discuss on a public forum but he understands.
I would invest in the people of Leigh and the fans though if it were right and can't be any fairer than that.
I knew by posting on here I'd either get the response I feel it needs to take it forward or simply get abuse and shot down. Jury is still out we shall see.
Hope this helps in assessing my credibility.
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