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| Quote: Tipster Ste "So it's a good idea to ask fans to put another £16 in the til but not to ask 25 loyal companies????
AT was probably 48 months off reaching my aim but the credit crunch bit!!'"
1,800 fans or 25 companies ? , IMO the companies pay more than they get back , as I said , I cannot think of one that got a positive financial return on their money ,
Try 48 years , not months , much as I have the greatest respect for Arthur and his investement , he was taking us nowhere
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| it seem to me its not arthur who's messed up its the people he had around him who've let him and the club down.
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| Quote: J20 "The thing with AT he clearly had a lot of passion for the club but was he the worst kind of money man? Just signing the cheques until he couldn't? What are commercial links like, LSV rent / split (inc commercial) too heavy weighted? Even that 1k each sponsor lottery... be interesting to see how that worked out financially with other clubs sponsors?
Your fans though are paying the same prices as any other? Are we simply saying they all have money men (after us you have the bigger crowds) or are Leigh simply spending too much elsehwere to be viable?'"
Answer to the 1 st question , yes
Widnes with a fan base of 2,000 , are essentially identical to Leigh , not a criticism , but Steve O Connor would have possibly had second thoughts if those had been the circumstances , quite simply , we have to emulate you
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| Quote: j.c "it seem to me its not arthur who's messed up its the people he had around him who've let him and the club down.'"
It isn't a case of ' messing up ' , it's just thinking that the old ways still work , ie , a winning tam and good coach will result in fans returning , or the ' field of dreams ' approach , build it and they will come , or what will shortly be known as the Salford City Reds approach
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| Inevitably there will always be a fair degree of e written on this message board but for some one to say ' Arthur Thomas was just 48 months off leading us into the Super League play offs ' is right up there !! - All IMHO of course.
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| Quote: Starbug "It isn't a case of ' messing up ' , it's just thinking that the old ways still work , ie , a winning tam and good coach will result in fans returning , or the ' field of dreams ' approach , build it and they will come , or what will shortly be known as the Salford City Reds approach'"
Hey, is it true that the new parliamentary boundary proposals, put the 'Davyhulme Sewage Works Stadium' within the Leigh constituency?
"You're only a small city in Leigh!"
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| Quote: Starbug "It isn't a case of ' messing up ' , it's just thinking that the old ways still work , ie , a winning tam and good coach will result in fans returning , or the ' field of dreams ' approach , build it and they will come , or what will shortly be known as the Salford City Reds approach'"
Its becoming obvious that the people AT trusted and surrounded himself with completely lacked the drive to take the club forward off the field.
imo with two more seasons like this one and our gates would be around the 3000 mark.
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| Quote: j.c "Its becoming obvious that the people AT trusted and surrounded himself with completely lacked the drive to take the club forward off the field.
imo with two more seasons like this one and our gates would be around the 3000 mark.'"
I would disagree jc , last Thursday tells me that , that is why I was so upset , we are going to have to put up with some very depressing results in the near future , last Thursday will be a good result in comparison , hopefully the fans reaction will be more positive than what we witnessed
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| Quote: Starbug "I would disagree jc , last Thursday tells me that , that is why I was so upset , we are going to have to put up with some very depressing results in the near future , last Thursday will be a good result in comparison , hopefully the fans reaction will be more positive than what we witnessed'"
But we know it wont be dont we? because all the new and lapsed fans who've turned up this season thinking we've finally turned the corner will walk away again "saying" they've sucked me in again and they've spit me out again,iv'e done with em.
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| Quote: Tipster Ste "What is confusing and disappointing, I will let you choose........ Is the fact that we have 25 shirt sponsors this year and we haven't contacted them to
A) see if they can contribute in our hour of need
B) thanked those that helped us to get to the end of the season
C) asked them if they are willing to reinvest in 2012
D) finally why have all 25 shirt sponsors who pumped in £25k this season not been invited to the end of season awards night as guests
All the above seem good opportunities to raise much needed funds and to be honest have the scope to pull in much more than asking fans to pay for a game we didn't get to.
I just hope Trevor isn't cutting ties with old contacts??'"
Not sure if you're one of the 25 so apologies...
SInce June, TB and the club have been knocking on doors and ringing up, he also asked local businees and people to contact him with offers, ideas, help and assistance in whatever way possible. The Corporate Club have been going back to their members with the begging bowl too and existing sponsors have also tipped up. Its happened mate, trust me.
Remember the additional money that came from them, well that was as a result, but as some businesses sit in both camps they can only spilt that pound note so many ways.
There is a lot going on with sponsors etc (and I;m sure some have not been contacted for whatever reason)but dont forget there is a skeleton staff now at Leigh and ony so many hours in the day. Thats no excuse when the club is in the position its in but with a thousand other things to resolve its an unfortate fact that some things will fall bewteen two stools.
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| Quote: j.c "But we know it wont be dont we? because all the new and lapsed fans who've turned up this season thinking we've finally turned the corner will walk away again "saying" they've sucked me in again and they've spit me out again,iv'e done with em.'"
Yep
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| Quote: Tipster Ste "Col
What exactly are we allowed to raise on here as most things could be directed to the relevant person!!!
I asked as we seem hell bent on asking the paying speccie for every penny whilst companies that have put thousands in go untouched!!'"
Not always the case mate.
Most of the existing sponsors are Leigh fans like the rest of us and have been asked to help and in as many cases as possible have done. Dont forget, many pay up monthly by DD already - like the fans though there is only so many times you can knock on that door.
Make no mistake, TB has been bangng on every door possible. Sure there might be a couple he's missed but given his task over the last few months, its understandable.
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| Quote: Alexs Dad "Not always the case mate.
Most of the existing sponsors are Leigh fans like the rest of us and have been asked to help and in as many cases as possible have done. Dont forget, many pay up monthly by DD already - like the fans though there is only so many times you can knock on that door.
Make no mistake, TB has been bangng on every door possible. Sure there might be a couple he's missed but given his task over the last few months, its understandable.'"
Glad you cleared a few points up there mate. I just hope we havent missed anything out. Asking for fans to donate to a game that we didn't get to will only harm the club IMO. How do we expect fans to pay for season tickets when all the talk is we might not see 2012.
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| Quote: Starbug "
Try 48 years , not months , much as I have the greatest respect for Arthur and his investement , he was taking us nowhere'"
Disgraceful comment, only took us from bottom to top in 18 months, appointed a world class coach and increased gates by 25%. Ticked the box, the next 2 years were to consolidate and increase investment.
If we had got a golden ticket in 2014 does anyone think AT WOULDNT HAVE INVESTED MORE IN SL?? it's not hard to get into those SL play offs!!
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| Quote: leighonardo "Inevitably there will always be a fair degree of poop written on this message board but for some one to say ' Arthur Thomas was just 48 months off leading us into the Super League play offs ' is right up there !! - All IMHO of course.'"
It was a little Tongue in cheek but why couldn't we make it in 2015? Had we got the golden ticket in 2014? We were progressing nicely!
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